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Thought you did a really good job of making your points @Ross Scott. I'm a programmer and I like to think I have a decent knowledge of ML and LLMs, but I would have struggled myself as it seemed like a lot of his arguments didn't really go anywhere and were strange red herrings, but also on that point I think it would have been more productive if he tried to have a conversation and explore the topic more than try to win a debate against someone that admits upfront that it's not their area of expertise. I could be wrong about the guy but to me that signals someone trying to make themselves look smarter rather than add something of value. Interesting that he seems to have at least a basic understanding of how LLMs work but still can't follow the logic of how that doesn't indicate consciousness in any way. The thing is though it's a hard topic to get into without both parties agreeing exactly what constitutes consciousness and what parameters need to be met before we can say something is sentient.

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@Verticen @Ti7ANiUMThe Twitch VOD worked for me https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1444286546

For some reason I'm having trouble loading this video specifically, won't download for me. My internet is working fine and I can watch other videos.

This has to be the most obscure game I personally have ever played. I'm not sure if you're counting indie games, but this is about as indie as it gets, made by a kid in their bedroom. I honestly have no clue what even compelled me to download and play this weird, terrible looking point and click adventure game, but I remember it being surprisingly entertaining. Do keep in mind I was probably 8 or 9 when I played this so my opinion of it probably doesn't count for much, but if you're really bored one night, maybe check it out → https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/site/games/game/266-conspiracy-of-songo/