ThePest179

Egyptian military issuing a State of Emergency and curfews. Clashes by both the military and Muslim Brotherhood resulted in 500 dead. Christians are being killed, and Christian churches are being burned down. Situation currently out of control.

In light of calls for a cease-fire, I would like to say I am ready to declare a truce. Is @ expertyejin ready for a truce?

First, providing more accurate numbers for crimes (The way I see them) is just that. It doesn't make their crimes any more acceptable. Second, I mentioned all that stuff because YOU mentioned it a few posts back.

The use of the term 'Holocaust' with regards to the Nazi regime is for exclusively referring to the mass murder of Jewish people under the Nazis. Whilst the Nazi regime did commit many other crimes, they are not covered under that term unless they directly relate to their systematic murder of Jewish people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005143 It's just a convenient means for me to designate Nazi crimes more easily. Don't show your Wikipedia sources though. @expertyejin will claim they are false.

First, Kim Jong-un uses his assets primarily for himself, saying anything different would be a blatant lie. Second, Did I ever say communism was a good system? No, I didn't. Unless you want to claim I did, just like your accusations of US war crimes in the War on Terror, claims that the US is/will become Fascist, that Nationalist China could defeat Japan, and claims of collaboration between the US and communists.

First, Even if the Great Chinese Famine was man made that doesn't mean it was the only contributing factor! Second, I admit that I was wrong about the Fall of Communism in relation to the North Korean Famine. It seemed to make sense that a country heavily dependent on foreign aid would go into a desperate situation when it's removed suddenly. Third, Yes, Holodomor and the Great Purge were Stalin's doing, as well as other state terror activities. What exactly you wanted me to say is beyond me. Fourth, The Holocaust includes every crime committed by the Nazi regime, just so we're clear.

First, The Great Famine was accidental (due to Mao not realizing the scope of the problem), Holodomor was intentional, and the North Korean Famine started due to the fall of communism, and made worse by government polices. http://www.studymode.com/essays/Causes-Great-Chinese-Famine-158880.html http://cup.columbia.edu/book/978-0-231-14000-3/famine-in-north-korea Second, If 20 million or more people died at Tiannen Square, that would mean Tiannen Square should have as many dead as the Nazi death camps Auschwitz, Treblinka, and the Soviet massacre at Katyn (which it did not).

http://history.cultural-china.com/en/34H7545H12588.html http://history.cultural-china.com/en/34H7545H12590.html http://asianhistory.about.com/od/china/a/TiananmenSquare.htm

Okay, you obviously can't understand logic. You defiantly rewrite history to serve your own purposes. I can't help someone who wants to make up his own logic and stick with it even though reality clearly states otherwise. Mao killed 30 million people (the great Chinese Famine doesn't count, as it was not instigated by the Chinese government). The Tiananmen Square protests resulted in 5,000 deaths at the most. The Chinese Nationalists had no airplanes, few cars, and almost no tanks. Nazi Germany is much worse than the USSR because of the Holocaust. I was wrong on communism and Nazism can coexist, but they cannot mix with each other. And even if I don't think the murders from the alleged police brutality don't exist, give me the website link anyway so I can understand your way of thinking. If Wikipedia is such a bad source I would love to see the sources you're using. So go on, tell me the sources. Just please tell me.

First, Nobody gives a shit about those puppet governments besides those who control them. And why would the US declare war on the USSR during the Second World War if the only thing they did were kill their own people! And considering Nazi Germany was allied to Imperial Japan, why decrease the strength of one of your most powerful ally by going to war with them? Not to mention you need a majority of votes in Congress for that... Second, The only person in that list who was Jewish was Trotsky. Marx was Protestant, and Lenin was atheist (having Jewish relatives doesn't count if they weren't themselves Jewish). Third, The Chinese communists didn't murder 100 million people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes Fourth, The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact failed when Hitler invaded the USSR. Enough said. Fifth, I WAS going to say that the police don't shoot people for no reason, but if you can give me the links....

I overlooked it because the Nationalists had no planes, few cars, and almost no tanks! It is almost impossible to win a war like that! TRY to deny that, I dare you. And those communist rebels had fought the Japanese as guerillas too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War#Full_scale_invasion_of_China Then you fucking say I'm a robot! I don't know! For the sake of my sanity, let's just say 100 children (more or less) died in drone strikes. You know that they aren't targeting children on purpose, and yet you still use this in your anti-US views. So just stop using it please. Well maybe I want to hear it from you. And get the links from you. Here is the link to what happened:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Zimmerman#Alleged_race_issues

First, YOU SON OF A BITCH, They didn't want to fight each other you complete dumbass! Whoever struck first would be portrayed as the aggressor, the one who was struck would be portrayed as the victim. I think you know how that would play out if the US attacked the USSR. And loss of life would be horrendous, to say the least. And yes, attacking puppet regimes and supporting people who are against your enemy, does in fact prove something you dumbass! Second, The simple fact that you just said communism and Judaism (Jews) are connectable only proves that you're a Hitlerite (or Nazi if you're not smart enough to understand). Third, The only crimes the US has committed were overuse of force against communist regimes. I didn't admit anything else. Fourth, Stalin alone killed 20 million people on his paranoid delusions. The men who assumed control after him killed people that they knew were a threat to their reign. It doesn't make them better, if that's what you wanted to hear from me, it just makes them look better to the people who are being fed more propaganda than you are. Fifth, Modern historians agree that ALL the communist nations from 1917-1989 are responsible for the deaths of at least 85 million people and at most 100 million people. If we counted my estimates, including the additional 30-40 million people China killed, and the killings of all the other communist regimes, we have about 80-95 million people dead. That's where the official numbers are. if we include your estimates, we have about 150 million dead. That's way over the mark set by modern historians. So who's wrong here? The arrogant Nazi asshole, or heavily educated historians deadacated to finding accurate sources? Sixth, The fact that Nazi Germany attacked the USSR AT ALL is undeniable proof that Fascism and Communism cannot mix or coexist. Seventh, Your sources of information are obviously Neo-Nazi/Islamic extremist propaganda meant to lead their followers to believe that the collapse of the US is immanent. This obviously fooled you. What proof do you have of US police officers shooting civilians randomly? I met a lot of anti-Obama people, and If I see more than three dead or gone by the end of high school, I might be inclined to believe you. But so far, no such thing has happened, and many people still protest against the government, so what the fuck are you talking about?

Yeah, and who saved their asses? The US! The British! Those groups you just described had just BARELY made it out of the war with functioning governments. The Japanese economy was based around war production anyway! Their economy crumbled trying to compete with the US war production while US bombing campaign annihilated Japanese industry. So yeah, you're rewriting history! THEY ARE NONEXISTANT! How many times must I say it, they don't exist! And again, if you said you knew the drones weren't supposed to kill children, why do you continue to use it in your argument? And once again, you fail to give a straight answer and instead just say "read carefully" as if that's supposed to satisfy as the substitute for an answer. JUST TELL US THE CRIMES!!! Does race affect the way people work? I don't think so, the last time I checked. What if I was black? Did you think about that? What if you were speaking to a black man instead of a white one, and I gave the same answer? It could be possible. You could have just said a black man hated his own race. Makes me regret that I'm not black. I'M DENYING WHAT ISN'T TRUE YOU ASSHOLE! If you knew me personally you would find out that you were just making shit up about a man you think is an evil person, JUST BECAUISE HE'S AN AMERICAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First, Why attack the Communist governments in the first place if they were working together? Second, They didn't attack each other directly because they didn't want to fight a major world war. Why attack someone who is undermining your strength if your doing the same thing to him? Why waste some of your lives when the enemy can just waste his own by supporting his enemies and vice-versa? Third, Brittan supported Palestine because they wanted a piece of the Middle East to themselves, and the US and USSR supported Israel for a variety of reasons, namely to look like good people to the world. Fourth, I am not underestimating the atrocities of the USSR because A: The leaders of the USSR didn't want to look like another Stalin and make the Warsaw Pact look bad, and therefore did not want to kill more people than they had to. B: The only crimes the US has committed were against the people of communist regimes, North Korea and Vietnam, so any wrongdoing the US has done I just summed up right there. C: 40 million people is plenty. Why lie and add 20 million people to that count when the said number is plenty to use in propaganda? Fifth, Fascism and Communism don't mix, or else Hitler and Stalin would have conquered the world instead of fight each other. Sixth, If the Us is sooooo oppressive, why can people protest in the street, or criticize the government on public radio and television, and for that matter, why is one of my friends still alive after criticizing the Obama administration to the point of openly saying he wants to kill Obama?

There you go again, rewriting history. Nationalist China wasn't able to do shit against Japan! The only reason they managed to do anything was because of American and British advances that forced them to redeploy and the large number of Guerilla fighters in China and the Philippines! Don't you understand that most of these AREN'T real children? YES WE NEED TO ASK BECAUSE YOU WON'T GIVE US THE CRIMES US TROOPS COMITTED, IF THEY COMMITTED ANYTHING AT ALL! First, I never said civilians should be spied on you fucking dumbass! STOP PUTTING YOUR WORDS IN OTHER PEOPLE'S MOUTH'S FOR ONCE AND WAKE THE FUCK UP! Second, If Martin was white I would still support Zimmerman. For that matter, if Martin was white, this conversation wouldn't be happening! My friends are about as supportive of the government as you are, and none of their parents are politicians.

Your government has lied to you yet again on US-Taiwan relations. Let me go into detail. First, why would the US support communism? Why? If the US loved communists so much, was the Cold War all just some made up conspiracy? And what was the Fascist of American history Joseph McCarthy then, if he wasn't a persecutor of communists? A communist in disguise? And if the US loved communism, why did the US support people like Francisco Franco and Ngo Diem? And what were the Korean and Vietnam wars if they weren't wars against communism? And why didn't the US leave Europe to the communists in the Second World War if they loved communism? Second, Hitler's regime killed at least 25 million people (unless you think Slavs and Jews are "inhuman") in the timespan of only 12 years, while the USSR killed only 40 million people at the most in the timespan of 62 years. Third, You keep calling the US Fascist, and yet you say we love communists. So which is it? Fascist or communist?

You shut the fuck up about Israelis suffering under the "Zionist" regime. The Palestinians attacked Israel first you fucking Nazi pig! And when did we say al-Qaeda attacked Israel? We didn't. And as I expected, a small list of less than 100 children killed who probably don't even exist. You even said that you understand that the drones are not supposed to kill children, so why did you even keep on talking about it? These alleged crimes are not concealable any more than they were 40 years ago. And what crimes are you talking about?! I did not say all civilians are terrorist, where did you read that? Are you blind? And stop going on about American "fake" democracy that only benefits whites. First, if you have never experienced democracy in the US firsthand, how are you qualified to insult it? Second, George Zimmerman shot Martin in self defense. And the last time I checked black people could vote. WHAT 13-14 YEAR OLD IS A GOVERNMENT AGENT!?!?! Are you insane?! Maybe that's how it works in China, but I have never seen a 13-14 year old FBI/CIA informant.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!?!?!? Trust me when I say I know what the US did to persecute communists during the 1940's and 50's. So why would a very anti-communist government arm communist rebels in the MOST POPULATED COUNTRY IN ASIA!?!? Well what's the answer?

US media misguides the people, enough said. Do your predictions factor in the Shia-Sunni conflict sweeping the Middle East, Ross?

Ironic considering that half way through the war the public wanted to stop fighting. Makes me shudder to think what connections you have, Bullseye. Which is sad all thing considering, but if you don't enforce the law, it bites you in the ass later on. Did he say only American lives mattered!? He didn't once say that! And if the US didn't atom bomb Japan, the number of dead on both sides would have been overwhelming. Yes, please give me the list of children that don't exist that were killed in these strikes. What are you talking about?! Are you actually suggesting that the US government AND media outlets are covering up war crimes in the War on Terror?! Let me use the Vietnam War as my example. Almost every atrocity committed by US forces were reported in detail when they happened. Why should it be different now? You're really comparing the example of a person who fled communist oppression to a person who revealed major elements in a counter-terror operation that helps them thwart terrorist operations? I don't think I have to go into detail here. Views can change. Understood? Wrong. Dead wrong. 80% of the senators on Fox news want to imprison Snowden, and my friends are split 50-50 on Snowden. No, you do not want to acknowledge that there are such things is all. And didn't you just say you knew some conservatives? Excuse me, but I have RARELY seen BTGBullseye wrong when I have argued with him. We may not agree on everything, but he knows what he's talking about.

Now then, let me point out the flaws in your argument. First, the drone strikes are not supposed to kill children (unless you believe the Nazis called al-Qaeda) and civilian deaths are accidental in nature. Second, while the US media reports on only American fatalities, I have not seen any evidence of American soldiers committing war crimes of any kind in Afghanistan or Iraq. Third, America may not always act like a DEMOCRATIC-REPUBLIC, that doesn't mean it is an evil empire trying to silence dissent.

Let him answer. I want to know why he wants to hang Bush and Obama. And even if they made pretty shitty decisions, that does not warrant a death sentence.

Both Bush and Obama deserve to be hung too. And why is that?

They make meds for paranoid schizophrenia now. The Illuminati hasn't existed for around 400 years, and was not a power even when it did. Don't even bother with these conspiracy dumbasses. Back on topic guys.

I can see the writing on the wall. Don't know what you're talking about.