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I understand and agree with the desire to keep explicit, intentional racial hatemongering and overly divisive off-topic rhetoric out.

However, in practice, terms such as "hatespeech" are incredibly elastic. There are no real limits on what can count as "hatespeech" as the concept is entirely subjective -- and straight out of Orwell's Newspeak dictionary. It doesn't have to be anything genuinely offensive to a reasonable / normal person to count as "hatespeech" -- it can be anything Leftists hate. For any or no reason. What they hate doesn't stay still either: it changes faster than anyone can ever keep up with.

There's also the problem of scope, because mods go banning people for off-platform behavior they don't like or just to assert their power over anyone who doesn't worship the exact same sociopolitical orthodoxy they do.

A specific rule like "no doxxing" makes sense, but concepts like "harassment" are similarly elastic. Public disagreement or dissent becomes framed as "harassment" even when it doesn't involve contacting the person or pursuing them at all. "Harassment" needs a tight definition so it is clear what is allowed (disagreeing about issues and saying so should be allowed) and what's not. (creeping on someone's family or job, following them, phone calls, doxxing, that kind of crap genuinely is harassment and should be banned)

By the way, I'm not complaining about any specific mod on this Discord or even saying that this Discord is abnormal: I'm saying they're all crap and this one isn't better.

Idiots who can't tell the difference between an average Trump supporter and a Nazi have no business moderating anything and I think that describes the typical person "with lots of Discord moderation experience"

I understand and agree with the desire to keep explicit, intentional racial hatemongering and overly divisive off-topic rhetoric out.

However, in practice, terms such as "hatespeech" are incredibly elastic. There are no real limits on what can count as "hatespeech" as the concept is entirely subjective -- and straight out of Orwell's Newspeak dictionary. It doesn't have to be anything genuinely offensive to a reasonable / normal person to count as "hatespeech" -- it can be anything Leftists hate. For any or no reason. What they hate doesn't stay still either: it changes faster than anyone can ever keep up with.

There's also the problem of scope, because mods go banning people for off-platform behavior they don't like or just to assert their power over anyone who doesn't worship the exact same sociopolitical orthodoxy they do.

A specific rule like "no doxxing" makes sense, but concepts like "harassment" are similarly elastic. Public disagreement or dissent becomes framed as "harassment" even when it doesn't involve contacting the person or pursuing them at all. "Harassment" needs a tight definition so it is clear what is allowed (disagreeing about issues and saying so should be allowed) and what's not. (creeping on someone's family or job, following them, phone calls, doxxing, that kind of crap genuinely is harassment and should be banned)

By the way, I'm not complaining about any specific mod on this Discord or even saying that this Discord is abnormal: I'm saying they're all crap and this one isn't better.

Idiots who can't tell the difference between an average Trump supporter and a Nazi have no business moderating anything.

I understand and agree with the desire to keep explicit, intentional racial hatemongering and overly divisive off-topic rhetoric out.

However, in practice, terms such as "hatespeech" are incredibly elastic. There are no real limits on what can count as "hatespeech" as the concept is entirely subjective -- and straight out of Orwell's Newspeak dictionary. It doesn't have to be anything genuinely offensive to a reasonable / normal person to count as "hatespeech" -- it can be anything Leftists hate. For any or no reason. What they hate doesn't stay still either: it changes faster than anyone can ever keep up with.

There's also the problem of scope, because mods go banning people for off-platform behavior they don't like or just to assert their power over anyone who doesn't worship the exact same sociopolitical orthodoxy they do.

A specific rule like "no doxxing" makes sense, but concepts like "harassment" are similarly elastic. Public disagreement or dissent becomes framed as "harassment" even when it doesn't involve contacting the person or pursuing them at all. "Harassment" needs a tight definition so it is clear what is allowed (disagreeing about issues and saying so should be allowed) and what's not. (creeping on someone's family, following them, phone calls, doxxing, that kind of crap is genuine harassment and should be banned)

By the way, I'm not complaining about any specific mod on this Discord or even saying that this Discord is abnormal: I'm saying they're all crap and this one isn't better.

Idiots who can't tell the difference between an average Trump supporter and a Nazi have no business moderating anything.

I understand and agree with the desire to keep explicit, intentional racial hatemongering and overly divisive off-topic rhetoric out.

However, in practice, terms such as "hatespeech" are incredibly elastic. There are no real limits on what can count as "hatespeech" as the concept is entirely subjective -- and straight out of Orwell's Newspeak dictionary. It doesn't have to be anything genuinely offensive to a reasonable / normal person to count as "hatespeech" -- it can be anything Leftists hate. For any or no reason. What they hate doesn't stay still either: it changes faster than anyone can ever keep up with.

There's also the problem of scope, because mods go banning people for off-platform behavior they don't like or just to assert their power over anyone who doesn't worship the exact same sociopolitical orthodoxy they do.

A specific rule like "no doxxing" makes sense, but concepts like "harassment" are similarly elastic. Public disagreement or dissent becomes framed as "harassment" even when it doesn't involve contacting the person or pursuing them at all. "Harassment" needs a tight definition so it is clear what is allowed (disagreeing about issues and saying so should be allowed) and what's not. (creeping on someone's family, following them, phone calls, doxxing, that kind of crap is genuine harassment)

By the way, I'm not complaining about any specific mod on this Discord or even saying that this Discord is abnormal: I'm saying they're all crap and this one isn't better.

Idiots who can't tell the difference between an average Trump supporter and a Nazi have no business moderating anything.

I understand and agree with the desire to keep explicit, intentional racial hatemongering and overly divisive off-topic rhetoric out.

However, in practice, terms such as "hatespeech" are incredibly elastic. There are no real limits on what can count as "hatespeech" as the concept is entirely subjective -- and straight out of Orwell's Newspeak dictionary. It doesn't have to be anything genuinely offensive to a reasonable / normal person to count as "hatespeech" -- it can be anything Leftists hate. For any or no reason. What they hate doesn't stay still either: it changes faster than anyone can ever keep up with.

There's also the problem of scope, because mods go banning people for off-platform behavior they don't like or just to assert their power over anyone who doesn't worship the exact same sociopolitical orthodoxy they do.

A specific rule like "no doxxing" makes sense, but concepts like "harassment" are similarly elastic. Public disagreement or dissent becomes framed as "harassment" even when it doesn't involve contacting the person or pursuing them at all.

By the way, I'm not complaining about any specific mod on this Discord or even saying that this Discord is abnormal: I'm saying they're all crap and this one isn't better.

Idiots who can't tell the difference between an average Trump supporter and a Nazi have no business moderating anything.

I understand and agree with the desire to keep explicit, intentional racial hatemongering and overly divisive off-topic rhetoric out.

However, in practice, terms such as "hatespeech" are incredibly elastic. There are no real limits on what can count as "hatespeech" as the concept is entirely subjective -- and straight out of Orwell's Newspeak dictionary. It doesn't have to be anything genuinely offensive to a reasonable / normal person to count as "hatespeech" -- it can be anything Leftists hate. For any or no reason. What they hate doesn't stay still either: it changes faster than anyone can ever keep up with.

There's also the problem of scope, because mods go banning people for off-platform behavior they don't like or just to assert their power over anyone who doesn't worship the exact same sociopolitical orthodoxy they do.

A specific rule like "no doxxing" makes sense, but concepts like "harassment" are similarly elastic. Public disagreement or dissent becomes framed as "harassment" even when it doesn't involve contacting the person or pursuing them at all.

By the way, I'm not complaining about any specific mod on this Discord or even saying that this Discord is abnormal: I'm saying they're all crap and this one isn't better.

I understand and agree with the desire to keep explicit, intentional racial hatemongering and overly divisive off-topic rhetoric out.

However, in practice, terms such as "hatespeech" are incredibly elastic. There are no real limits on what can count as "hatespeech" as the concept is entirely subjective -- and straight out of Orwell's Newspeak dictionary. It doesn't have to be anything genuinely offensive to a reasonable / normal person to count as "hatespeech" -- it can be anything Leftists hate. For any or no reason. What they hate doesn't stay still either: it changes faster than anyone can ever keep up with.

There's also the problem of scope, because mods go banning people for off-platform behavior they don't like or just to assert their power over anyone who doesn't worship the exact same sociopolitical orthodoxy they do.

A specific rule like "no doxxing" makes sense, but concepts like "harassment" are similarly elastic. Public disagreement or dissent becomes framed as "harassment" even when it doesn't involve contacting the person.

By the way, I'm not complaining about any specific mod on this Discord or even saying that this Discord is abnormal: I'm saying they're all crap and this one isn't better.

I understand and agree with the desire to keep explicit, intentional racial hatemongering and overly divisive off-topic rhetoric out.

However, in practice, terms such as "hatespeech" are incredibly elastic. There are no real limits on what can count as "hatespeech" as the concept is entirely subjective -- and straight out of Orwell's Newspeak dictionary. It doesn't have to be anything genuinely offensive to a reasonable / normal person to count as "hatespeech" -- it can be anything Leftists hate. For any or no reason. What they hate doesn't stay still either: it changes faster than anyone can ever keep up with.

There's also the problem of scope, because mods go banning people for off-platform behavior they don't like or just to assert their power over anyone who doesn't worship the exact same sociopolitical orthodoxy they do.

By the way, I'm not complaining about any specific mod on this Discord or even saying that this Discord is abnormal: I'm saying they're all crap and this one isn't better.