Edit History

On 12/30/2021 at 10:18 PM, Im_CIA said:

Do you see a single fact to back that up?

Because I see quite a lot of historical evidence to the contrary, where a road to hell was paved by righteous machete swinging

 

On 12/31/2021 at 5:24 AM, Im_CIA said:

Easy. The civil rights movement. No one was  exactly nice about it, but they didn't Rawanda style "chop the tall trees" like OP is suggesting.

 

  I'd argue that the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s has failed more

than it has succeeded. Giving that it led to Neoliberalism, also, nowadays

the economical Gap between rich and poor is bigger than in the Gilded Age;

if incrementalism worked the US would probably have a national Healthcare

system by now but it doesn't.

Furthermore this is a classic quote from MLK himself:

 

“This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the

tranquilizing drug of gradualism.”

 

   I am also pretty confident there is also consistent evidence that the 

civil rights was much more radical in conception however both the

HUAC and covert sabotage by the FBI and CIA have had a strongly

attenuating effect on it to be light on the words, and after it was

weakened the top down co-optation went into effect.

 

Quoting Journalist Vance Packard (The Naked Society, early 1964) :

 

Perhaps the most relentless inquisition of educators in the last few years occurred

at the University of Florida in Gainesville. A gubernatorial candidate who happened

also to head a committee of the state legislature moved his committee to Gainesville

and for seven months conducted his investigation on the campus. Yale historian C.

Vann Woodward, in reporting on the affair, related: “With the aid of lawyers, police,

detectives, and paid informers, the committee dragged in hundreds of witnesses,

mainly students, to testify against professors. Disclosures of political heresies were

disappointing, but sexual deviations supplied headlines

 

Ultimately the Civil Rights movement has been stifled, softened, re-moulded and 

co-opted into nothingness, just like environmentalism nowadays (for the most part,

especially in the mainstream). There is extensive evidence that a sizeable chunk

of late 60s musical revolution and countercultural fashion was a top down 

predicament, not the opposite.

On 12/30/2021 at 10:18 PM, Im_CIA said:

Do you see a single fact to back that up?

Because I see quite a lot of historical evidence to the contrary, where a road to hell was paved by righteous machete swinging

 

On 12/31/2021 at 5:24 AM, Im_CIA said:

Easy. The civil rights movement. No one was  exactly nice about it, but they didn't Rawanda style "chop the tall trees" like OP is suggesting.

 

  I'd argue that the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s has failed more

than it has succeeded. Giving that it led to Neoliberalism, also, nowadays

the economical Gap between rich and poor is bigger than in the Gilded Age;

if incrementalism worked the US would probably have a national Healthcare

system by now but it doesn't.

Furthermore this is a classic quote from MLK himself:

 

“This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the

tranquilizing drug of gradualism.”

 

   I am also pretty confident there is also consistent evidence that the 

civil rights was much more radical in conception however both the

HUAC and covert sabotage by the FBI and CIA have had strongly

attenuating effect on it to be light on the words, and after it was

weakened the top down co-optation went into effect.

 

Quoting Journalist Vance Packard (The Naked Society, early 1964) :

 

Perhaps the most relentless inquisition of educators in the last few years occurred

at the University of Florida in Gainesville. A gubernatorial candidate who happened

also to head a committee of the state legislature moved his committee to Gainesville

and for seven months conducted his investigation on the campus. Yale historian C.

Vann Woodward, in reporting on the affair, related: “With the aid of lawyers, police,

detectives, and paid informers, the committee dragged in hundreds of witnesses,

mainly students, to testify against professors. Disclosures of political heresies were

disappointing, but sexual deviations supplied headlines

 

Ultimately the Civil Rights movement has been stifled, softened, re-moulded and 

co-opted into nothingness, just like environmentalism nowadays (for the most part,

especially in the mainstream). There is extensive evidence that a sizeable chunk

of late 60s musical revolution and countercultural fashion was a top down 

predicament, not the opposite.