On 12/29/2021 at 3:02 PM, Mira said:There has to be a democratically established legal basis for the use of force. If political factions start using violence whenever they feel it's justified, it's only the most brutish who come out on top in the end. In other words: not the people that you (presumably) sympathize with.
Attempting to create a democratic and legal basis for the use of force is paradoxical in nature. Applied force is an act against mutual agreement in of itself and attempting to create a "democratic" legal basis of it only reinforces a government's right to rule through violence they only permit when done amongst their collaborators.
I am not saying there should be brutish anarchy or even that violence is a good and righteous thing to use in order to establish ones goals, what I'm trying to say is that violence is an inevitable sin one has to bear if one is to stand against tyranny.
There should be limitations on the use of violence, and people should try to insure it does not occur wantonly, what Im asking however is when is it necessary to employ force for ones own life and liberty, because its getting hazy frankly. You could argue that a lot of nations now have democratic processes in order to achieve one's goals peacefully, but you could also argue many of them are plutocracies that make true freedom impossible, or that the world is going to shit so fast that trying to take things slow and peaceful actually might cause more harm overall than trying to overthrow the whole thing and try to cut down as much killing the world as possible.
If I were in a position to make this choice I would Ideally try to do something slow and steady, because to do so otherwise would be authoritarian and against my nature. I dont want a position of power ruled with an iron fist, I want the world to be equal and for violence to be as useless as possible in order to get what you need. The problem lies in the fact that in order to achieve that world I have to consider the reality that many people are just fine ruling with an iron fist and my soft ideals would be an easy target if I dont think about this harshly.
I intentionally used provocative language because I didnt want to sugarcoat the question itself, but dont mistake the question as a confession that it is a good thing to use violence to get what one wants, its a question of when is it necessary to do so and why.