On 8/6/2021 at 10:17 PM, Im_Unemployed said:To me this says that the problem lies with an underclass of dumb despondent schlemiels.
Yeah, and racists are more likely to be uneducated, violent and incompetent. So why would you try to be more like them?
On 8/6/2021 at 10:17 PM, Im_Unemployed said:No reasonable person will take racial humor and turn it into a mantra, much less go around discriminating against others.
Well, obviously. Racists are not reasonable people. I would even go so far as to say that a person becoming less-racist becomes more reasonable. So again, I'm not seeing how ignoring racist comments or jokes is desirable.
On 8/6/2021 at 10:17 PM, Im_Unemployed said:Simple, if the immediate company is offended, it's a social faux pas, if not it's just another joke. But in either case it doesn't matter; it's just off the cuff rose garden stuff. The only ones that take any of this to heart are the nose picking degenerates from that study, and benign trash hailing from every corner of the proletariat shitscape.
To be so callous as to equate group people who are upset about you being racist with racist hate crimes is genuinely pretty fucked-up of you.
You simply cannot ignore here that your language has an effect on both yourself and the people around you. Even if someone else takes your insincere comment to heart, you still have responsibility there!
On 8/6/2021 at 10:17 PM, Im_Unemployed said:The world(read: America where everyone is absolutely bonkers about race) is too busy attacking it's own strawman in the image of a middleclass "casual racist". The real devil is growing wage to GDP gap, which does affect minorities more for systemic reasons, but in this case it's legacy institutionalized racism merging into generational poverty, not racism in and of itself.
You could rake every profane uncle and uncouth bureaucrat over coals even when it does absolutely nothing to aid our current social predicament, but it is a lot easier to chase echoes and solve superficial problems. I guarantee you, if a lot more people had better prospects and outlooks, then casual racism wouldn't even be a blip on the radar, and it really is a non-issue compared to say central banking and corporate consolidation.
People, believe it or not, are capable of fighting more than one kind of inequality at a time. Casual, systemic and violent racism are all worthy of being fought and actively are being fought, by a lot of people who, believe it or not, are not at-odds with each other in the slightest.
Nonetheless, it is absolutely preposterous to pretend here that the existence of systematic inequality is totally divorced from the normalization of racist attitudes. You can't just say "class is the real problem" and act like that's an excuse.
Also I don't know where you get this idea that racists are a strawman or that they're middle-class.
On 8/6/2021 at 10:17 PM, Im_Unemployed said:Isn't that the same thing as rednecks targeting random muslims after 9/11?
Most Muslims in America do not regularly hang out with extremist groups.
On 8/6/2021 at 10:17 PM, Im_Unemployed said:To my point above, do you think your assailants would do anything this bone headed if they had well paying jobs or were knee deep in Academia? I mean statistically speaking, of course.
Here's how I want things to play out in *my* ideal world.
Whenever someone witnesses a politically charged event, or hears a racial slur directed at them, they just shrug their shoulders, get a coffee, and drop another 1000 dollars into an IRA or a downpayment. A perfect decentralized world governed by personal determination, collectively summarized by the motto embedded on the original Franklin Cent
On 8/6/2021 at 10:31 PM, Im_Unemployed said:Real harm is caused by the disenfranchised and a few honest to god ideologues who would otherwise suffocate if the former didn't exist en mass.
"A few honest to god ideologues" are the system. The whole thing is according to the design of people you're claiming are just one piece of the harm, but it's their system.
You cannot make an economic inequality argument while ignoring that bigotry is the motivator for separating people economically. Look back at Burke or De Maistre and you'll find that their vision of society, the founding principles of modern capitalism, were of a way to separate the rulers from the degenerate while feigning the appearance of an equal society. And it's not just generic royalist sentiment from these people, every single one of them had racial hangups.
There is no ignoring bigotry in favor of improving capitalism, because capitalism was created by bigotry. When black people suffer in homelessness and poverty, that isn't a flaw in the system, that is the system working as intended. Which means there's quite a few more numerous, wealthy and powerful racists than just a few poor skinheads and their grifting youtubers, but quite a lot of them don't even know the harm they're doing because a culture of racist oppression is normalized to them.
Racism will exist long after capitalism, and it will be worth fighting against then too.