Freeman's Body Count

[silverius]

  RandomGuy said:

He kills two Gargantuas, not one.

Thanks.

 

  ThePest179 said:

Yeah, Freeman has nothing on Simo Häyhä.

He does if we're going for kills per unit time. FM takes place over a few ambiguously timed days at most.

 

Still, he isn't the most deadly even by that measure since there are bomber pilots such as Paul Tibbets. Probably some WW1 machine gunners that can measure up too, if you're going for infantry combat.

[Sexypotato]

  Ross Scott said:

  seanbob said:

So Freeman has a body count of 174 people so that means he would be one of the biggest mass murderers in history the disturbing part is there are still a few in real life that have him beat.

Not really, I think the majority of his kills are justifiable homicides in self defense. I would argue almost all are, but if you wanted to give the soldiers the complete benefit of the doubt, you would have to count every kill where a soldier has fired his weapon at him FIRST as justifiable homicide and everything else as a murder. There are iffier situations where the soldier laid a trap, but you're not sure which one. (like the pipe explosion trap).

 

EDIT: You could go farther and argue every soldier point his gun AT Freeman could count, given his circumstances thus far.

 

 

Either way Gordon would definitely have some serious mental issues but on a legal note could he be classified as a combatant?

[GameGodOfAll]

Great job making this silverius.

[K4_Kydure]

  silverius said:

  K4_Kydure said:

Would the crews of the tanks and air craft count as individual kills? I believe the Abrams has a crew of four and the Bradley(s) have a crew of three.

Since I didn't know how many people there were on board (the tanks aren't driving around for example) I just counted it as one, Gimli style.

 

No crew worth their salt would leave their vehicle without the commander telling them. Just because they're not moving doesn't mean they don't have a driver/gunner/commander.

[kjc609]

  BTGBullseye said:

  danielsangeo said:

was thrown in stasis for 20 years.

Would've blown past the statute of limitations if it really was that long.

 

It would, but I've always thought that Half-Life 3 would end with Gordon saving the planet, but then getting labeled as a terrorist and executed for killing so many soldiers back at Black Mesa.

[silverius]

  K4_Kydure said:

  silverius said:

  K4_Kydure said:

Would the crews of the tanks and air craft count as individual kills? I believe the Abrams has a crew of four and the Bradley(s) have a crew of three.

Since I didn't know how many people there were on board (the tanks aren't driving around for example) I just counted it as one, Gimli style.

 

No crew worth their salt would leave their vehicle without the commander telling them. Just because they're not moving doesn't mean they don't have a driver/gunner/commander.

Given the competence shown by the HECU during FM, these people might not have been the brightest of the bunch. I'll still count them as one because I don't know how many people are in there. The Osprey in particular works like a clown car if you don't shoot it down IIRC. Anyway he only kills a couple so it is not like it makes a huge difference.

[Twilight Sparkle]

  silverius said:

Given the competence shown by the HECU during FM, these people might not have been the brightest of the bunch. I'll still count them as one because I don't know how many people are in there. The Osprey in particular works like a clown car if you don't shoot it down IIRC. Anyway he only kills a couple so it is not like it makes a huge difference.

 

Technically speaking, a Bradley would have a crew of 3 and may or may not be carrying a squad of 7 soldiers (max). Since none of the ones that Freeman fought had any troops come out the back, it seems reasonable to count each Bradley as three kills.

 

Abrams tanks have a crew of 4, but technically we don't know that everyone inside died, especially since Abrams tanks are designed to direct the force of the explosion away from the crew in the event of an ammo detonation (which is what is portrayed in Freeman's Mind.) However, since the turrets on all of them did blow up, that's at least two kills right there (commander and gunner.)

 

Ospreys have a flight crew of... four, I think? I believe they carry 32 soldiers max, so that could be as many as 36 soldiers from that one kill.

[BTGBullseye]

  Twilight Sparkle said:

Ospreys have a flight crew of... four, I think? I believe they carry 32 soldiers max, so that could be as many as 36 soldiers from that one kill.

That's only if they were loaded standing-only... The likelihood is quite high that they would've only had 24, (and were all seated) considering their extra equipment and the time between drops of troops.

[Cranial Toxicity]

'...And that puts me at...160...counts of...self-defense.'

[Enzo+Morgan]

  silverius said:

I had nothing to do today so I decided to make a list of Freeman's kills. This may not actually be accurate in any way, since it is just manual labor. However, Freeman kept wondering how many counts of self defense with an automatic weapon he could still justify, and now he knows how to prepare his lawsuit.

 

I found another thread that did this here already, but it hadn't been updated in almost a year. I thought I'd make a new thread rather than necroing that one. If that's frowned upon I hope a mod can merge the threads.

 

The tally is in spoiler tags since it is rather large:

 

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e4

2 scientists

----+

2 scientist

2

 

e5

1 scientist

----+

1 scientist

1

 

e6

2 houndeye

2 houndeye

1 vort

1 headcrab

1 zombie

4 headcrab

----+

4 houndeye + 1 vort + 5 headcrabs + 1 zombie

11

 

e7

(first mention of the grappling hook)

1 bullsquid

----+

1 bullsquid

1

 

e8

3 headcrabs

2 headcrabs

1 headcrab

----+

6 headcrabs

6

 

e9

5 headcrabs

1 headcrab

2 vorts

1 vort

2 vorts

1 headcrab

3 vorts

1 barnacle

3 headcrabs

1 zombie

2 vorts

1 zombie

9 headcrabs

2 zombies

----+

19 headcrabs + 11 vorts + 1 barnacle + 4 zombies

35

 

e10

1 bullsquid

1 headcrab

1 bullsquid

1 headcrab

1 headcrab

1 headcrab

1 barnacle

1 headcrab

1 zombie

1 headcrab

(actually notices the g-man)

3 zombies

----+

2 bullsquid + 6 headcrab + 1 barnacle + 4 zombie

13

 

e10.5

1 freeman

----+

1 freeman

1

 

e11

1 turret

1 headcrab

4 headcrabs

3 vort

1 vort

3 headcrabs

----+

1 turret + 8 headcrab + 4 vorts

13

 

e12

(again notices the g-man)

1 soldier (one count of self-defence)

2 soldiers

3 soldiers

4 soldiers

1 headcrab

2 soldiers

----+

12 soldiers + 1 headcrab

13

 

e13

2 headcrabs

1 bullsquid

1 zombie

2 bullsquid

2 headcrabs

4 houndeyes

----+

4 headcrab + 3 bullsquid + 1 zombie + 4 houndeyes

12

 

e14

1 bullsquid

1 bullsquid

1 bullsquid

1 bullsquid

1 bullsquid

1 bullsquid

4 houndeyes

1 houndeye

1 headcrab

1 houndeye

1 bullsquid

1 zombie

1 barnacle

1 barnacle

----+

7 bullsquid + 6 houndeye + 1 headcrab + 1 zombie + 2 barnacle

17

 

e15

1 zombie

2 zombies

1 zombie

2 zombies

----+

6 zombies

6

 

e16

2 headcrabs

1 headcrab

3 zombies

1 headcrab

1 zombie

3 houndeyes

1 bullsquid

----+

4 headcrab + 4 zombies + 3 houndeyes + 1 bullsquid

12

 

e17

1 zombies

----+

1 zombie

1

 

e18

0

 

e19

3 tentacles (Physics Rules!)

----+

3 tentacles

3

 

e20

0

 

e21

1 vort

2 vort

5 headcrab

1 vort

1 headcrab

2 headcrab

2 vort

1 soldier

1 soldier

----+

6 vort + 8 headcrab + 2 soldiers

16

 

e22

3 soldier

1 soldier

2 soldier

1 soldier

1 houndeye

4 houndeye

1 headcrab

1 zombie

----+

7 soldiers + 5 houndeye + 1 headcrab + 1 zombie

14

 

e23

2 soldiers

2 soldiers

2 soldiers

2 headcrabs

1 turret

1 vort

----+

6 soldiers + 2 headcrabs + 1 turret + 1 vort

10

 

e24

1 gargantua

----+

1 gargantua

1

 

e25

1 barnacle

2 houndeyes

1 bullsquid

1 turret

3 houndeye

1 bullsquid

3 houndeye

1 bullsuid

1 barnacle

1 barnacle

1 bullsquid

----+

3 barnacle + 8 houndeye + 4 bullsquid + 1 turret + 2 barnacle

18

 

e26

1 headcrab

1 headcrab

1 bullsquid

1 barnacle

1 bullsquid

1 headcrab

5 soldiers

----+

3 headcrab + 2 bullsquid + 1 barnacle + 5 soldiers

11

 

e27 (pirate)

1 soldier

2 soldiers

1 soldier

1 soldier

1 soldier

3 soldiers

2 vorts

2 soldiers

1 vort

2 headcrabs (shiver me timbers)

1 vort

----+

11 soldiers + 4 vort + 2 headcrab

17

 

e28

1 soldier

1 soldier

2 bullsquid

1 headcrab

1 bullsquid

1 headcrab

1 soldier

5 vort

(freeman starts thinking this whole thing isn't a rescue operation)

----+

3 soldier + 3 bullsquid + 2 headcrab + 5 vorts

13

 

e29

1 soldier

2 soldiers (did they just pop out of a box)

2 zombies

1 soldier

1 soldier

2 soldiers

----+

7 soldiers + 2 zombies

9

 

e30

1 soldier

2 soldiers

----+

3 soldiers

3

 

e31

2 soldiers

1 zombie

1 zombie

----+

2 soldiers + 2 zombies

4

 

e32

3 barnacle

1 barnacle

1 ichesaur (you think I work at sea-world?)

3 barnacle

----+

7 barnacle + 1 itchisaur (sp?)

8

 

e33

2 vorts

1 barnacle

1 vort

2 bullsquid

1 bullsquid

2 headcrabs

3 vorts

----+

6 vort + 1 barnacle + 3 bullsquid + 2 headcrabs

12

 

e34

2 vort

1 headcrab

2 vorts

2 vorts

3 ninjas

----+

6 vorts + 1 headcrab + 3 ninjas

10

 

e0 (hazard course)

 

e35

(I woke up in a trash compactor again)

2 headcrab

----+

2 headcrabs

2

 

e36

3 barnacles

1 barnacle

2 headcrabs

----+

4 barnacles + 2 headcrabs

6

 

e37

1 bullsquid

2 bullsquid

1 bullsquid

----+

4 bullsquid

4

 

e38

1 headcrab

1 headcrab

1 headcrab

1 bullsquid

----+

3 headcrabs + 1 bullsquid

4

 

e39

1 headcrab

5 houndeyes

1 grunt

4 headcrabs

1 soldier

1 guard

4 soldiers

----+

5 headcrabs + 5 houndeyes + 1 grunt + 5 soldiers + 1 guard

17

 

e40

2 soldiers

1 grunt

3 soldiers

1 soldier

1 soldier

1 bullsquid

1 bullsquid

3 soldiers

4 houndeyes

----+

10 soldiers + 1 grunt + 2 bullsquid + 4 houndeyes

17

 

e41

1 suicidal scientist (walks into the surgery robot)

4 headcrabs

3 headcrabs

1 soldier

1 soldier

2 turrets

2 soldiers

2 soldiers

----+

1 scientist + 7 headcrabs + 6 soldiers + 2 turrets

16

 

e42

1 soldier

1 damn apache

1 ichisaur

----+

1 soldier + 1 apache + 1 ichesaur

3

 

e43

1 houndeye

4 soldiers

1 headcrab

1 headcrab

2 headcrabs

----+

1 houndeye + 4 soldiers + 4 headcrabs

9

 

e44

1 turret

2 soldiers

1 soldier

1 soldier

1 soldier

1 apache

1 headcrab (by dodge)

----+

1 turret + 5 soldiers + 1 apache + 1 headcrab

8

 

e45

8 soldiers

1 tank

2 soldiers

1 tank

----+

10 soldiers + 2 tanks

12

 

e46

1 grunt

1 vort

----+

1 grunt + 1 vort

2

 

e47

2 headcrabs

1 headcrab

1 hive hand

3 soldiers

1 guard ('friendly' fire)

1 turret

2 grunts

2 soldiers

----+

3 headcrabs + 1 hivehand + 5 soldiers + 1 guard + 1 turret + 2 grunts

13

 

e48

3 soldiers

1 tank

1 soldier (sniper)

3 soldiers

2 grunts

1 osprey

1 grunt

1 guard (told him not to do that)

----+

7 soldiers + 1 tank + 3 grunts + 1 osprey + 1 guard

13

 

e49

2 grunts

22 vorts

2 soldiers

2 snarks

2 soldiers

2 soldiers

4 grunts

1 vort

1 grunt

3 soldiers

1 grunt

1 soldier

1 grunt

----+

9 grunts + 23 vorts + 10 soldiers + 2 snarks (vorts here were really difficult to count)

44

 

e50

3 soldiers (the ghost told him to)

2 soldiers

2 vorts

----+

5 soldiers + 2 vorts

7

 

e51

1 grunt

1 vort

3 vorts

1 grunt

1 vort

1 snark

1 snark nest (just not going to count this one)

1 snark

1 grunt

2 grunts

1 grunt

----+

6 grunts + 5 vorts + 2 snarks

13

 

e52

1 turret

1 barnacle

1 barnacle

1 headcrab

1 barnacle

1 turret

1 soldier

2 soldiers

1 tank

1 turret

----+

3 turrets + 3 barnacle + 1 headcrab + 3 soldiers + 1 tank

11

 

e53

2 soldiers

3 grunt

3 vort

2 grunt

1 grunt

1 grunt

1 blue space laser

3 headcrab

1 bullsquid

1 headcrab

1 headcrab

----+

2 soldiers + 7 grunt + 3 vorts + 1 blue space laser + 5 headcrab + 1 bullsquid

19

 

e54

1 ninja (Ockhams Shuriken)

1 ninja

1 ninja

1 ninja

2 grunts

1 grunt

1 grunt

1 scientist ('you handle it!' im calling this death by criminal negligence)

----+

4 ninjas + 4 grunts + 1 scientist

9

 

e55

2 vorts

1 grunt

2 vorts

1 vort

2 grunts

1 grunt

1 headcrab

2 vorts

1 headcrab

2 vorts

----+

9 vorts + 4 grunts + 2 headcrabs

15

 

freeman across the universe

 

e56

2 grunt

1 grunt

1 barnacle

3 headcrabs

2 barnacle

6 grunts ('this is Innsbruck all over again')

----+

9 grunts + 3 barnacles + 3 headcrabs

16

 

e57

1 vort

1 grunt

1 vort

1 grunt

1 vort

1 grunt

2 grunts

----+

3 vorts + 5 grunts

8

 

e58

1 vending machine

1 headcrab

3 headcrabs

1 headcrab

2 headcrabs

1 zombie

3 soldiers

1 soldier

1 soldier

1 soldier

4 soldiers

2 soldiers

1 soldier

3 soldiers

1 soldier

2 soldiers

2 soldiers

2 soldiers

----+

7 headcrabs + 1 zombie + 23 soldiers

31

 

e59

2 zombies

1 zombie

3 headcrabs

2 vort

1 soldier

1 vort

1 vort

1 soldier

2 vorts

1 vort

2 soldier

1 vort

4 vorts

1 vort

2 vorts

2 headcrabs

1 headcrab

1 scientist

1 houndeye

2 zombies

1 headcrab

1 headcrab

----+

5 zombies + 8 headcrabs + 13 vorts + 4 soldiers + 1 scientist + 1 houndeye

32

 

e60

1 scientist

2 vort

----+

1 scientist + 2 vort

3

 

e61

3 headcrabs

14 overseers

----+

3 headcrabs + 14 overseers

7

 

e61.5

0

 

e62

1 vort

1 vort

1 houndeye

2 houndeye

1 zapper

2 houndeyes

----+

2 vorts + 5 houndeyes + 1 purple zapper

7

 

e63

2 headcrabs

6 baby headcrabs

3 headcrabs

1 gonarch

----+

5 headcrabs + 6 baby headcrabs + 1 gonarch

12

 

e64

2 vorts

1 overseer

1 vort

1 overseer

2 vort

2 headcrabs

1 bullsquid

2 overseers

1 vort

2 vorts

----+

8 vorts + 4 overseers + 2 headcrabs + 1 bullsquid

15

 

e65

2 grunts

1 vort

1 vort

1 vort

1 barnacle

2 vorts

----+

2 grunts + 5 vorts + 1 barnacle

8

 

e66

2 vort

1 overseer

1 vort (only time he kills something other than a headcrab with the crowbar)

2 vort

2 overseers

1 vort

1 overseer

3 vort

1 vort

2 vort

1 vort

1 grunt

5 grunt

2 vort

2 overseer

1 grunt

1 grunt

2 overseer

2 vort

----+

17 vorts + 8 overseer + 8 grunts

31

 

e67

2 vort

2 overseer

2 vort

1 overseer

1 vort

1 vort

1 vort

1 vort

3 overseer

1 vort

1 vort

1 grunt

1 vort

1 vort

3 overseer

----+

11 vorts + 9 overseer + 1 grunt

21

 

e68

3 overseers

1 vort

3 overseers

1 vort

2 vort

1 vort

2 vorts

1 nihilant

----+

6 overseer + 7 vorts + 1 nihilant

14

 

Summary:

Vortigaunts: 155

Headcrabs: 138

Alien grunts: 54

Houndeyes: 46

Overseers: 41

Bullsquids: 35

Barnacles: 19

Baby Headcrabs: 6

Snarks: 4

Tentacles: 3

Ichthyosaur: 2

Gargantua: 2

Blue space laser: 1

Gonarch: 1

Nihilant: 1

 

Turrets: 9

Tanks: 4

Apaches: 2

Osprey: 1

 

Soldiers: 158 (so Freeman is strictly more of a one man Company rather than an Army)

Ninjas: 7

 

Scientists: 6

Guards: 3

 

TOTAL

508 Aliens

16 Military hardware

165 Hostile soldiers

9 'Friendly' Fire

 

SUM TOTAL:

698 kills

 

Notes:

- I'm not guaranteeing any kind of accuracy here in either the counting or the summing.

- Please do point out any errors I've made.

- This took me about a day.

- Freeman kills more aliens then humans.

- Freeman kills barely more alien soldiers at (grunts, gargs, vorts) 211 than human soldiers and equipment at 181.

- Freeman kills more overseers than barnacles, and barely more houndeyes than overseers.

- The tanks, Apaches and the Osprey destroyed have a combined unit cost of about 135 million dollars.

- Freeman is the most deadly in episode 49, with 44 kills, followed by episode 9 with 35 kills and then episode 59 with 32

kills.

 

edit 1 (2015-01-03). Forgot Bullsquids and Garg. Thanks BTGBullseye and Zaraki.

edit 2 (2015-01-04). One more Garg. Thanks RandomGuy.

Now add the deaths in Freeman's mind 2 now. Also The two guys form Civil protection. the antlions, any Synths and more

[Zaraki]

Episode 3

-2 City Scanners,16 Civil Protection -18

Episode 4

-3 Barnacles

-4 City Scanners,21 Civil Protection -25 -28

Episode 5

-23 Barnacles

-4 Civil Protection -27

Episode 6

-12 Manhacks,6 Civil Protection -18

Episode 7

-4 Barnacles

-1 City Scanner,16 Manhacks,9 Civil Protection -26 -30