General Chat

[BTGBullseye]

My question is: Why are you spreading his video around, getting him more views, and then wondering why he's getting support?

[Blightmare]

Technically we're spreading other peoples video's. He's just the subject, and while there's plenty who will check him out based on this, there's many more(such as me) who's avoiding all his stuff because of it.

[rairii]

My question is: Why are you spreading his video around, getting him more views, and then wondering why he's getting support?

 

Are you really asking that? His only channel is DramaAlert, this is Chosen's video that's getting a lot of views and support.

Even bigger names in the comments are saying to spread the video around and like it so it doesn't get hidden under anything else.

[BTGBullseye]

Still, why bother? It's not like most people really care.

[rairii]

Still, why bother? It's not like most people really care.

 

that's a very ignorant statement, a LOT of people in the youtube community care, even bigger youtubers like cr1tikal and repzion. they bother because keemstar is a fucking scumbag with a toxic fanbase and they want to actually see him face some consequences.

[BTGBullseye]

Ok, so someone is a dick on the internet, and this is a big deal for people? I think we all need to take a quick step back from the internet and regain perspective.

[rairii]

Are you fucking dense? This is a big deal for people because it goes beyond some guy being a dick on the internet. He has shown time and time again that he does not give two shits about his followers, has been known to nearly ruin certain peoples' careers and bully them to near suicide, has leaked peoples' private information and obtained other trackable private information following up with death threats. Regardless of how significant you see any of this, it's clear he's far, FAR more malicious than some kid going around on the internet and calling people names. The only reason he has such a positive following is because his only current content is him acting like such a saint, reporting on other youtubers' wrongdoings. And don't get me wrong, some youtubers are complete fucking scum and I can appreciate people calling them out on their shit, but that's exactly the reason why he's respected as a youtuber and shit like this needs to be made public.

[BTGBullseye]

So, he allegedly performed very illegal acts, and the best anyone can come up with is making videos complaining about him? Why not just provide evidence of his illegal activities to the authorities, and get him sent to jail for a few decades?

[rairii]

So, he allegedly performed very illegal acts, and the best anyone can come up with is making videos complaining about him? Why not just provide evidence of his illegal activities to the authorities, and get him sent to jail for a few decades?

 

That's literally the whole point of what chosen is doing

[BTGBullseye]

If that's what he's doing, then there is no need whatsoever to make videos about it. It just comes across as making drama for the sake of making drama.

[rairii]

"why isn't anyone gathering proof and reporting on this?"

"chosen is"

"then it's pointless and he's doing it to stir up drama"

what the fuck am i missing here?

[BTGBullseye]

Reporting it to youtubers isn't going to do anything, reporting it to authorities is. Putting it up on Youtube is totally pointless unless you intend to hurt someone's reputation without doing anything else.

[rairii]

the authorities tend to not do jack shit about internet affairs either

unless you've been caught downloading copyrighted content and get off with a slap on the wrist

or caught downloading child porn and end up with a knock on the door

if it's an attempt to stir up drama, it's an attempt to stir up very brief drama in hopes of either him owning up to his bullshit or having youtube, facebook, twitter, whatever else terminate his accounts. twitch has already done it.

[BTGBullseye]

You just said that the root cause of this is that he did some stuff that regularly gets people put in jail for decades in the USA, and yet are defending the lack of reporting it to the authorities... This is not good. This is why people get away with doing stuff like that, because people don't report it to the authorities. (in this case, if the evidence actually exists, the FBI, who WILL investigate)

[Blightmare]

People DO report it to the authorities. The authorities tend to adopt a "lol then just turn off your computer" as if that's gonna somehow solve anything when your home address has been posted for the world to see. The POINT of what this all is is to raise awareness enough that people who don't know he's this big of a prick yet are informed in hopes they stay away from all of that while providing more evidence in case he fucks up bad enough that authorities now have a reason to get involved.

 

Can we please move on to a different subject?

[rairii]

If the authorities would do something about it that would be fantastic

But with as much publicity as it has, someone has doubtlessly already contacted them

Internet affairs seemingly don't matter to them until someone actually gets hurt, like in a swatting prank

What have the authorities done thus far about that fine lionmaker fellow who leaked nudes of an underage girl to his twitter? Absolutely nothing

Twitter has taken matters in to their own hands though, and suspended his account (obviously, as he violated terms of service)

Keemstar's technically not even allowed ownership of a youtube channel, he simply claims dramaalert isn't under his ownership and so it hasn't been suspended. If dramaalert got terminated, that would be wonderful as-is.

 

Bottom line is, unless he seriously fucks up, there's little that can be done unless chosen's efforts to "expose" keemstar get enough publicity.

[rairii]

Sorry about the double post, but

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So you know how I said in my previous post that unless keem seriously fucks up, nothing is going to happen unless chosen's videos get publicity?

Well, keem seriously fucked up, and he's losing tens of thousands of subs because of it

This is pretty fucking big

[Seattleite]

Wait. Wasn't he at like 1.5 million the other day? Holy shit.

[rairii]

Actually he only lost about 1000 since he uploaded his other video, that was my bad

But still, That's quite a loss for only a few hours.

[Seattleite]

Apparently Markiplier was hacked. I didn't even notice. Apparently by some people called OurMine Team who have stolen a lot of money from Youtubers in the past according to random people in the comments but there's no evidence they've ever stolen from anybody. By the looks of it from their Twitter, they do this all the time as a publicity stunt, leak earnings information on the big channels they hack, and give the youtubers back their channels immediately. (They even notified him.)

 

So... Kinda sucks he got hacked, but not nearly as much as people think.

Edited January 14, 2016 by Guest (see edit history)