Team Fortress 2

[Eedo Baba]

I suppose that balances out. I'd honestly use sniper rifles more often if it weren't for the firing latency I get when playing TF2. There's about a half a second between when I click and when I fire. Makes hitting moving targets with a rifle almost impossible

[Kirkreng]

I do feel too that(even on low ping servers) the sniper doesn't respond as fast as I'd like it too. But after some playing you get used to that and automatically adjust to it.

[Epsilon]

Fully charged headshots won't take down an overhealed heavy, for one thing. I usually go with the huntsman, so managing to first hit the medic, which is usually running all over the place behind the heavy, wait for the heavy's overhealing to go down, THEN kill the heavy is near impossible.

You must admit that Heavy's health is wayyy too high. It's double that of most other classes, and the fact that the amount of overhealing is proportional is just ridiculous. So many times I've made perfect headshots on heavies that do 375~ damage, and still don't get the kill. The fully charged headshot from the beginning of tf2 was designed to be an instant kill, like a backstab. The fact that logistically, Heavies have this overhealing backdoor, I get the feeling was unintentional. No other class has the ability to withstand that kind of exacting instant damage outside of uber, and the Heavy shouldn't be an exception to balance.

 

For the heavy to be a balanced class with that high a health bar, his weapons would need to be much weaker. For one thing, when a heavy gets a random crit cycle over two seconds, two or three hits alone is enough to take down many classes. This is enough to actually get very long range kills just from the sheer number of bullets.

I have sooo many gripes with how OP heavies are, but yeah, they definitely definitely are. Whenever I play on Heavy, I feel like I flipped a switch in TF2 to set the game to Easy mode. You don't have to aim. You don't have to worry about your health. You get showered in damage that in a fair game would kill any player, then just eat a sandwich, call for a medic, get overhealed with a backup uber so that you're essentially invulnerable. it's absolutely ridiculous.

 

A fully charged headshot from the sniper rifle is 450 damage. exactly how much HP the heavy has overhealed. the machina full charge does 518 damage, which is more than enough to kill an over healed heavy. Full charged headshots STILL kill everything in 1 hit. and don't try to convince me otherwise considering I just got back from a match trying out the Bazaar Bargain and taking out the heavies and THEN the medic. I have the damage meter enabled to show how much I'm doing so I know.

 

as for heavies not needing to worry? have you seen a heavy try to just go crazy out on his own in a group of enemies? he doesn't last very long. And even if you give him a medic, if he's an idiot, he'll just die a little slower and maybe take out someone. kritzkrieg + sticky spam is one of the better(actually one of the best) counters I've seen because the heavies medic won't last very long at all against that and the heavy will go down in 2-3 blasts.

 

I'm going off the Huntsman, which is 360 at full. Sniper rifles are fine, but you can't get as many kills, and anything close range is a death sentence for the sniper.

I'm actually surprised the amount of health the Heavy has (with a Medic) irritates you from the perspective of a Sniper more than the fact that simply firing one to three or four bullets pretty much prevents you from taking them down.

 

About Snipers and death sentences at close range:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkZLJeQ1Nhc

 

Oh, just a note: You probably already know this, but a lot of the shots look off due to lag compensation and demos and whatnot. In game, they're perfectly legit.

[Jek Jek Roo]

It's a new sniper's primary wepon!

 

 

 

THAT'S A KNIFE!!

[Blightmare]

That reminds me of the pyro I saw the other day burning people with his axetinguisher then meleeing them with a degreaser.

[Collective Foal]

That reminds me of the pyro I saw the other day burning people with his axetinguisher then meleeing them with a degreaser.

 

I love that lag comp. weapon switching

[Blightmare]

No I mean the whole load out was screwed up on my screen. he was using axestinguisher as the flamethrower, kinda like that Jek is showing, but when he switched to his melee, the actual flamethrower was in it's place.

 

and I was the only one seeing it. :/

[Kirkreng]

I guess your eyesight is

U1sZ0ek7LLk

[Collective Foal]

Oh that's trippy, bro.

 

So anyway, nightteam or whatever is the noobiest server EVER! I was on their 24/7 harvest map and the ENTIRE OPPOSING TEAM is autofire engineers, medic/heavies, and ONE decent soldier and a pyro.

 

My Sniper saw this and he JIZZED IN HIS PANTS!

[Eedo Baba]

I'm actually surprised the amount of health the Heavy has (with a Medic) irritates you from the perspective of a Sniper more than the fact that simply firing one to three or four bullets pretty much prevents you from taking them down.

 

About Snipers and death sentences at close range:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkZLJeQ1Nhc

 

Oh, just a note: You probably already know this, but a lot of the shots look off due to lag compensation and demos and whatnot. In game, they're perfectly legit.

 

lol, if that video is genuine, it's both made by some sort of gaming savant, and probably by someone who can run TF2 at faster than 20 fps.

[Collective Foal]

I suddenly REALLY want to play some Sniper

[Blightmare]

I suddenly REALLY want to play some Sniper

I know that feel bro.

[Jek Jek Roo]

Sniper riffle - "Boom! Headshot!"

The Huntsman - "Woops, headshot"

Sydney Sleeper - "Aww Piss"

Bazaar Bergain - "Headshot dammit!"

The Machina -*Click Click Click*

[Collective Foal]

So my Scout costume for Halloween was a success. Nobody regcognized it and assumed I was a Baseball player with a headset. BUT, as we went to the last house, a guy in his late 20's answers the door. First words out of his mouth

"Are you the Scout?"

 

"YES!!! :mrgreen:

 

He was the only person besides Deadline99's family to recognize me. It made me SOOO happy. I skipped up the street back to my house saying "Need a Dispenser Here," all the way home

[Epsilon]

Next time I recommend being the Pyro. It'd be a lot less "random" than a baseball player with a headset, and it'd be pretty cool to both those who play TF2 and those who don't.

 

...Unless you can run fast. Then continue to be a Scout.

[Axeldeath]

I saw 3 TF2 cosplayers at Armageddon. The Sniper with a Huntsman., a Pyro and the Soldier.

[Collective Foal]

Next time I recommend being the Pyro. It'd be a lot less "random" than a baseball player with a headset, and it'd be pretty cool to both those who play TF2 and those who don't.

 

...Unless you can run fast. Then continue to be a Scout.

 

I'm the second fastest on my LAX team, so yea. I wouldn't be able to find an asbestos-lined suit for pyro so I couldn't be him/her. Maybe I could be soldier, but I'd need a small gardening shovel and a helmet and a suit and golashes and a copy of "The Art of War"

[Epsilon]

I just got an idea.

 

If anyone gets a Clan Pride, I think the Accursed Farms cow would look awesome on it.

[Srake]

Next time I recommend being the Pyro. It'd be a lot less "random" than a baseball player with a headset, and it'd be pretty cool to both those who play TF2 and those who don't.

 

...Unless you can run fast. Then continue to be a Scout.

 

I'm the second fastest on my LAX team, so yea. I wouldn't be able to find an asbestos-lined suit for pyro so I couldn't be him/her. Maybe I could be soldier, but I'd need a small gardening shovel and a helmet and a suit and golashes and a copy of "The Art of War"

If your the 2nd fastest you're gonna have to go as a medic.

[Blightmare]

Well, the same day I managed to repay my debt to ABG, I get put back into debt with him XD

 

Thanks again for the Villain's Veil. I'll once again pay you back when I get the metal. XD But that shouldn't take too long if I decide to sell my Vintage Camera Beard. Still deciding if I should. It's great for my "Party Spy" look. XD