Humans over other animals

[ProHypster]

While I have no real position on this matter, I'd like to know yours. Animals are treated as less than human. They are slaughtered in slaughterhouses with varying levels of brutality, but nonetheless, animals are being killed in a large amount to feed the massive population of humans. In your opinion, how justifiable is it to kill animals in a large amount to feed humans?

 

That depends on your philosophy.

The question You posted is pretty self-explanatory but just for laughs and conversation

Here's the four main ideas:

 

1. If You are monotheist/polytheist then the answer is in the books...

 

2. If You are humanist then You would look past the emotions and think for the benefit of humans, You would get as much food as there is demand by distributing it throughout the world with companies. You wouldn't care how.

 

3. If You believe in the equality of animals and humans then You would be a vegetarian and treat animals as humans.

 

4. Lastly, similar but not identical to Humanists, there is "natural people", who believe in mother nature and that we should eat just like any other herbivore out there by hunting individually when needed.

Edited April 19, 2011 by Guest (see edit history)

[Lord Sinister]

Dude that purple text is pretty hard to read on the dark forum background!

 

"Individual hunting" isn't really possible considering our population numbers now. Not unless it involved killing and eating each other, and I personally would consider this to be a step back in terms of social evolution.

[ProHypster]

Dude that purple text is pretty hard to read on the dark forum background!

 

"Individual hunting" isn't really possible considering our population numbers now. Not unless it involved killing and eating each other, and I personally would consider this to be a step back in terms of social evolution.

 

Haha, sorry for that, I didn't want it to shine too much but also didn't want it to fade to the background..

 

As I said I consider this topic pretty self-explanatory, I only stated the main schools on this subject not the possibilities.

 

While we are talking about this, it's funny how vegeterians care so much about animals yet have no feelings about the spinach plant they eat

[ProHypster]

Dude that purple text is pretty hard to read on the dark forum background!

 

"Individual hunting" isn't really possible considering our population numbers now. Not unless it involved killing and eating each other, and I personally would consider this to be a step back in terms of social evolution.

 

But to challenge Your thinking, I believe it is as we are herbivores so technically we could also survive and live with nature by eating meat only once, twice a month... no need to eat a lot of meat :/

[Lord Sinister]

Dude that purple text is pretty hard to read on the dark forum background!

 

"Individual hunting" isn't really possible considering our population numbers now. Not unless it involved killing and eating each other, and I personally would consider this to be a step back in terms of social evolution.

 

But to challenge Your thinking, I believe it is as we are herbivores so technically we could also survive and live with nature by eating meat only once, twice a month... no need to eat a lot of meat :/

 

If memory serves, historical evidence suggests we and our ancestors have been omnivores for a pretty long time. However I cannot comment on the frequency of meat eating. This is where good research really is needed to further this point of discussion. We should probably all do some reading.

[ProHypster]

Dude that purple text is pretty hard to read on the dark forum background!

 

"Individual hunting" isn't really possible considering our population numbers now. Not unless it involved killing and eating each other, and I personally would consider this to be a step back in terms of social evolution.

 

But to challenge Your thinking, I believe it is as we are herbivores so technically we could also survive and live with nature by eating meat only once, twice a month... no need to eat a lot of meat :/

 

If memory serves, historical evidence suggests we and our ancestors have been omnivores for a pretty long time. However I cannot comment on the frequency of meat eating. This is where good research really is needed to further this point of discussion. We should probably all do some reading.

 

As I posted that at 6 in the morning I confused Omnivores with Herbivores. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Michael Archer]

If there are better pesticides, why wasn't the market demanding them?

 

Why were so many people dying before DDT?

 

While this topic is important to some people, I don't consider it civilization-threatening. I'm moving it to general discussion.

 

Thank you, Ross! That took a while. I said that after a few other threads were moved to Free-for all.

 

I'm thinking of staying out of this section; there are too many subjectivists.

[Axeldeath]

People who say that humans and animals are equal are... well IMO pretty stupid.

[Kirkreng]

I feel like this is relevant to this thread so i thought i might as well post it here. This is a collection of videos about the gruesome stuff that happens to make eggs, dairy, chicken ect.

 

WARNING! This video is very disturbing, i couldn't watch it past 8minutes(the full video is 11minutes long).

http://www.meatvideo.com/

 

I think it is ridiculous what goes on there. I am no vegetarian and i love eating meat, eggs and drinking milk. But this makes me sick, and i actually feel bad for eating meat, eggs ect., if this is something that could have happened to the animal which's flesh, or milk i am eating/drinking.

[BTGBullseye]

@Kirk

 

That is actually some of the worst, not the normal.

[Brad]

I apologize for the necropost but I thought this story should be told:

 

I just saw a story on one of the local news networks talking about how the workers at Iowa Select Farms were abusing the sows and piglets at one of their so called "farms". Apparently, some of the workers would throw the piglets on the floor because they were, and I quote, "bouncy", and would laugh while they did it.

http://www.woio.com/story/14992429/exclusive

 

I'm starting to think humanity is beyond redemption.

[Song]

I'm starting to think humanity is beyond redemption.

 

I think if there is a hell, it is to be reborn into this world with 'lesser luck', endlessly.