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It's great to hear there's progress on the Stop Killing Games campaign! Really interesting to see the focus shifting to non-English sponsored messages for the European Citizens’ Initiative. Makes sense to broaden the reach. This kind of community effort reminds me of the dedication I see in the racing game community, like people constantly pushing for new cars and tracks in games like, say, Drift Hunters. I'd love to see this initiative succeed! I'll check my network and see if anyone's channel might qualify to help. Thanks for the update!
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@danielsangeo if you think it might be useful, these are the direct links to the italian EU representative profiles, maybe we could add them in the description? Members https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/257727/PIERFRANCESCO_MARAN/home https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/239260/DENIS_NESCI/home Substitute Members https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/124867/BRANDO_BENIFEI/home https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/204333/SALVATORE_DE+MEO/home https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/36392/ALDO_PATRICIELLO/home https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/257126/GAETANO_PEDULLA'/home https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/257145/DANIELE_POLATO/home https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/257143/MARIATERESA_VIVALDINI/home Up to you if you want to add them in description.
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Title: L'industria sta attivandosi contro Stop Killing Games! Description: Videogames Europe, una lobby dell'industria dei videogiochi, sta attivamente schierandosi contro il movimento "Stop Killing Games". A quanto pare abbiamo stuzzicato il vespaio. Link all'iniziativa dei Cittadini Europei: https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home?lg=it Link per contattare i vostri Rappresentanti Europei https://www.europarl.europa.eu/committees/it/imco/home/members --- Link alla petizione per il Governo Inglese: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/702074/ Link per contattare i vostri Rappresentanti Inglesi: https://www.parliament.uk/get-involved/contact-an-mp-or-lord/contact-your-mp/ --- #StopKillingGames https://stopkillinggames.com/ Translated Subs: 1 00:00:00,150 --> 00:00:04,246 Ciao! Ho degli aggiornamenti sulla campagna “Stop Killing Games”. 2 00:00:05,050 --> 00:00:09,670 Come ho menzionato prima, abbiamo Passato il milione di firme. 3 00:00:09,670 --> 00:00:11,537 Anche se non do nulla per scontato. 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,320 Infatti, mi sono state date statistiche Di una precedente iniziativa 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,110 Che ha avuto 250.000 Firme invalidate 6 00:00:19,110 --> 00:00:21,620 E penso che Potremmo battere un record. 7 00:00:21,620 --> 00:00:24,287 Quindi, continuate a firmare come prima cosa. 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,060 Secondo, chiunque dubitasse di quanto potere questa iniziativa potesse avere 9 00:00:29,060 --> 00:00:33,700 Adesso c’e’ una organizzazione che rilascia dichiarazioni su di noi. 10 00:00:33,700 --> 00:00:36,580 Pensate che se non avessimo avuto la possibilita’ di cambiare le cose, 11 00:00:36,580 --> 00:00:39,600 Avremmo organizzazioni che cercano di ostacolarci? 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,010 Beh, una veramente importante e’ "Videogames Europe" 13 00:00:43,010 --> 00:00:46,550 Per quanto ne so, questa essenzialmente E’ la voce dell’industria dei videogiochi 14 00:00:46,550 --> 00:00:49,670 Quindi ovviamente andranno Contro ogni proposta che faremo, 15 00:00:49,670 --> 00:00:53,960 Perche’ sono ideologicamente contrari Al fatto che si possano conservare i nostri giochi. 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,427 È una cosa che non smetterò mai di ribadire. 17 00:00:56,500 --> 00:01:00,148 Anche se ogni sviluppatore al mondo Fosse a favore della nostra proposta, 18 00:01:00,390 --> 00:01:02,990 L’industria sarebbe comunque contro. 19 00:01:03,030 --> 00:01:06,470 Perche’ non sono gli sviluppatori che Prendono le decisioni piu' importanti. 20 00:01:06,470 --> 00:01:09,414 Ma sono gli investitori e Le aziende miliardarie 21 00:01:09,430 --> 00:01:13,485 Tenendo a mente questo, vediamo velocemente Le dichiarazioni della nostra opposizione. 22 00:01:13,485 --> 00:01:15,990 "Siamo grati per la passione dimostrata Dalla nostra community. 23 00:01:15,990 --> 00:01:20,290 "Tuttavia le decisoni di interrompere I servizi online hanno diverse sfaccettature 24 00:01:20,290 --> 00:01:23,120 "che non sono mai sottovalutate e devono Essere una opzione per le aziende." 25 00:01:23,121 --> 00:01:26,702 "quando un’esperienza online Non e’ piu’ commercialmente sostenibile" 26 00:01:26,702 --> 00:01:30,150 Bene, ho una buona notizia per voi, Videogames Europe. 27 00:01:30,150 --> 00:01:35,014 Non abbiamo alcuna intenzione di limitare Il vostro diritto a cessare i servizi online. 28 00:01:35,300 --> 00:01:38,666 Vi stiamo dicendo che potete disattivarli quando volete. 29 00:01:38,666 --> 00:01:41,270 Ma dovrete farlo responsabilmente, 30 00:01:41,270 --> 00:01:45,622 In modo che non possiate togliere i diritti di utilizzo che avete venduto ai vostri clienti. 31 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,190 Alcune persone si dimenticano che le aziende Ti vendono i diritti di utilizzo come prima cosa, 32 00:01:49,190 --> 00:01:51,066 Anche solo per giocare! 33 00:01:51,700 --> 00:01:54,600 "Comprendiamo che possa essere deludente per i giocatori, 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,415 "ma quando questo succede, l'industria si assicura che ai giocatori sia dato un preavviso" 35 00:01:58,415 --> 00:02:02,840 "sul cambio delle prospettive nel rispetto delle leggi sulla protezione del consumatore locali." 36 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,860 Okay, come prima cosa, non sono un avvocato ma questo tipo a "WBS Legal" lo e' 37 00:02:07,860 --> 00:02:11,613 E pensa che Ubisoft abbia commesso un illecito quando hanno chiuso "The Crew". 38 00:02:11,614 --> 00:02:13,990 dando ai giocatori solo tre mesi di preavviso, 39 00:02:13,990 --> 00:02:16,500 quando gli si sarebbe dovuto dare qualcosa come due anni. 40 00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:19,540 Ubisoft? Uno dei vostri membri? 41 00:02:19,540 --> 00:02:23,560 Quindi probabilmente questa e' semplicemente una falsita'. 42 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,200 Ma sapete cosa? Questo non e' neanche il nostro problema. 43 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,350 Quindi non mi interessa neanche quanto preavviso diate ai giocatori. 44 00:02:29,350 --> 00:02:33,333 Quello che mi interessa e' che non li priviate dei loro acquisti. 45 00:02:33,333 --> 00:02:37,400 "I server privati non sono sempre un'alternativa valida per i giocatori, 46 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,300 "dato che le protezioni che usiamo per mettere al sicuro i loro dati, 47 00:02:40,300 --> 00:02:43,960 "rimuovere contenuto illegale, e contrastare contenuto non sicuro per la community, 48 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,110 "non esisterebbero e lascerebbero i proprietari dei diritti responsabili." 49 00:02:47,110 --> 00:02:50,600 Okay, alcune cose qua. Dobbiamo vederle separatamente. 50 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,730 "I server privati non sono sempre un'alternativa valida" 51 00:02:54,730 --> 00:02:59,240 Quindi stanno dicendo che, per un nuovo concept di gioco che non e' nemmeno ancora stato realizzato, 52 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,993 non c'e' NESSUN MODO per cui si possa aggiungere un 'piano di fine supporto' al loro design? 53 00:03:04,666 --> 00:03:07,802 Le dita degli sviluppatori non possono scriverlo? 54 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,808 Mi piacerebbe tanto vederli ripeterlo in una stanza piena di sviluppatori. 55 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,450 Penso che l'industria potrebbe rimanere sorpresa da quanto possibile sia in realta' 56 00:03:15,450 --> 00:03:18,470 se la legge dicesse che non possono rimuovere il diritto di utilizzo 57 00:03:18,470 --> 00:03:20,400 gia' venduto ai loro clienti. 58 00:03:20,550 --> 00:03:24,160 Questa parte. Si, questa parte e' vera. 59 00:03:24,310 --> 00:03:28,470 I giocatori avranno senza dubbio un'esperienza piu' caotica e incontrollata 60 00:03:28,470 --> 00:03:30,160 giocando ad un gioco non piu' supportato. 61 00:03:30,310 --> 00:03:33,177 Casualmente, ne so qualcosa in merito [Ross Ganme Dungeon e' una serie che esplora giochi poco conosciuti] 62 00:03:33,610 --> 00:03:37,266 Insomma, e' cosi che funziona con tutto cio' che non e' piu' supportato. 63 00:03:37,810 --> 00:03:41,394 Questa pero' non e' una scusa per distruggere cio' che le persone hanno pagato 64 00:03:41,455 --> 00:03:43,270 Significa solo che si devono arrangiare 65 00:03:43,270 --> 00:03:45,270 Ma poi dicono questo 66 00:03:45,270 --> 00:03:47,840 "Lascerebbero i proprietari dei diritti responsabili." 67 00:03:47,959 --> 00:03:49,566 Ok, non sono un avvocato, 68 00:03:49,567 --> 00:03:53,750 la mia impressione iniziale e' che non sia affatto vero. 69 00:03:53,750 --> 00:03:55,933 Il modo in cui lo leggo e' che dicono che sono 70 00:03:55,933 --> 00:03:58,950 impossibilitati nello scrivere un'accordo con l'utente finale 71 00:03:58,950 --> 00:04:02,020 che li assolva da ogni responsabilita' al termine del supporto. 72 00:04:02,020 --> 00:04:06,710 Come se avere un piano per la fine del supporto, sia apparentemente impossibile. 73 00:04:06,710 --> 00:04:08,340 Quindi io, da profano, 74 00:04:08,341 --> 00:04:12,020 Mi sto chiedendo quale sia il problema nell'aggiungere una riga cosi' all'interno dell'EULA 75 00:04:12,020 --> 00:04:16,586 "Una volta che la nostra azienda termina il supporto non siamo responsabili di nessun problema 76 00:04:16,586 --> 00:04:19,333 "che possa sorgere agli utenti che continuano ad usufruire del gioco 77 00:04:19,334 --> 00:04:21,960 "in uno stato non piu' aggiornato ne' supportato, 78 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,833 "e ci assolviamo da qualunque responsabilita' legale, legata al suo utilizzo." 79 00:04:26,833 --> 00:04:30,500 C'e' sicuramente un modo migliore di dirlo ma spero di aver reso l'idea. 80 00:04:30,500 --> 00:04:34,620 Sembra che dicano che una frase cosi' sia impossibile da scrivere. 81 00:04:34,620 --> 00:04:37,564 Vedi, questa cosa mi lascia perplesso perche' da consumatore 82 00:04:37,670 --> 00:04:40,680 Ho visto tante cose avere il supporto interrotto, 83 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,752 ma comunque ho la possibilita' di tenerle. Semplicemente, me la devo gestire da solo. 84 00:04:44,340 --> 00:04:46,140 E' una cosa molto comune. 85 00:04:46,570 --> 00:04:49,433 Penso che avremmo bisogno di un avvocato per valutarlo. 86 00:04:49,433 --> 00:04:51,430 Quindi se diamo retta quello che ci dicono loro 87 00:04:51,430 --> 00:04:54,520 sembra che siano molto preoccupati riguardo la protezione dei consumatori. 88 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,933 Okay, ma la loro soluzione e' che i clienti devono vedersi 89 00:04:57,934 --> 00:05:00,580 il loro acquisto sottratto per sempre. 90 00:05:00,580 --> 00:05:05,390 "Dobbiamo distruggere i giochi dei nostri clienti per proteggerli da loro stessi." 91 00:05:05,390 --> 00:05:09,480 Non uso di solito questa frase perche' viene abusata troppo spesso, 92 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,120 qui non siamo a un approccio 'mammina' 93 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,587 E' piu un approccio 'Terminator' 94 00:05:14,950 --> 00:05:17,417 Prendi ad esempio un gioco come: "Starsiege: Tribes". 95 00:05:17,933 --> 00:05:22,415 Per tutti gli scopi quello e' un gioco che deve girare online, con altre persone 96 00:05:22,415 --> 00:05:24,815 o come minimo su una rete locale (LAN). 97 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,853 E' stato dismesso nel 2004 ma puoi ancora giocarci oggi. Online. 98 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,450 Questa lobby sembra che dica che questo e' un rischio legale. 99 00:05:34,450 --> 00:05:37,690 "Nessuno dovrebbe essere autorizzato a giocare questo gioco dopo il 2004, 100 00:05:37,690 --> 00:05:40,580 "ed e' un errore che a questo gioco sia permesso di esistere. 101 00:05:40,580 --> 00:05:42,780 "per il rischio per i consumatori. 102 00:05:43,166 --> 00:05:47,870 "Avremmo distrutto ogni singola copia nel 2004, se avessimo potuto. 103 00:05:47,870 --> 00:05:50,440 "Non potevamo prima, ma possiamo adesso. 104 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,340 "Quindi questo e' il nuovo modello di business per tutti i nuovi titoli." 105 00:05:53,490 --> 00:05:57,240 Per come la vedo io, e' un atteggiamento davvero ostile 106 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,573 sia nei confronti dei clienti, che dello sforzo di conservazione. 107 00:06:00,590 --> 00:06:06,070 Quindi la mia domanda e', perche' non possiamo lasciare che i consumatori, continuino a giocare ai loro gicohi 108 00:06:06,071 --> 00:06:09,046 ma aggiungendo una schermata iniziale che dica qualcosa come, 109 00:06:09,047 --> 00:06:12,340 "Attenzione! Questo gioco non e' piu' supportato. 110 00:06:12,340 --> 00:06:15,110 "Usarlo potrebbe rappresentare un rischio per la tua sicurezza. 111 00:06:15,110 --> 00:06:18,694 "Non ci assumiamo nessuna responsabilita' di cio' che potrebbe succedere." 112 00:06:18,951 --> 00:06:21,751 Mi sembra che possa essere un compromesso piu' che sensato. 113 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,630 "In aggiunta, molti giochi sono studiati da cima a fondo per essere solo online. 114 00:06:26,630 --> 00:06:30,095 "In pratica queste proposte finirebbero per restringere l'autonomia degli sviluppatori. 115 00:06:30,095 --> 00:06:33,675 "rendendo i videogiochi economicamente proibitivi da sviluppare." 116 00:06:33,675 --> 00:06:38,135 Okay, questa parte e' un po' piu' complicata perche' ogni gioco e' diverso. 117 00:06:38,135 --> 00:06:39,806 Ma leggo questo e 118 00:06:39,807 --> 00:06:43,860 Penso ai produttori di auto che dicono che non possono permettersi di produrle 119 00:06:43,860 --> 00:06:46,340 se sono obbligati ad aggiungere le cinture di sicurezza. 120 00:06:46,340 --> 00:06:49,860 Perche' nessuno si e' mai lamentato di una cosa del genere negli anni '60. [NdT: E' esattamente quello che e' successo] 121 00:06:50,090 --> 00:06:54,890 E comunque penso che stiamo lasciando fuori una grossa parte della questione 122 00:06:54,900 --> 00:06:58,950 Molte delle difficolta' e dei costi legati al creare un gioco online 123 00:06:58,950 --> 00:07:01,460 arriva da tutti i "microservizi" inclusi. 124 00:07:01,460 --> 00:07:02,870 E indovinate un po'? 125 00:07:02,870 --> 00:07:06,870 Non avremmo bisogno dell stra-grande maggioranza in una versiona 'non supportata' 126 00:07:06,870 --> 00:07:11,385 Ho parlato con uno sviluppatore che mi ha dato una lista di cose che non servirebbero 127 00:07:11,385 --> 00:07:16,630 Pagamenti, anti-cheat, statistiche, chat vocale. 128 00:07:16,630 --> 00:07:21,300 C'e' molto qua che non sarebbe necessario per giocare semplicemente al gioco. 129 00:07:21,300 --> 00:07:23,425 Ho una citazione da parte sua. 130 00:07:23,425 --> 00:07:26,390 "Non stiamo chiedendo il 98% del gioco. 131 00:07:26,390 --> 00:07:30,834 "Stiamo chidendo il 2% della logica del gioco per poter giocare la funzionalita' principale." 132 00:07:30,834 --> 00:07:35,900 Eccetto che non e' del tutto vero. Non stiamo chiedendo questo direttamente 133 00:07:35,900 --> 00:07:39,240 Stiamo chiedendo gli stessi diritti, che abbiamo gia' acquistato per il gioco. 134 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,528 che, come dice lui, possono probabilmente garantire semplicemente fornendo quel 2% 135 00:07:43,750 --> 00:07:47,005 Quindi tagliamo tutta questa roba inutile. 136 00:07:47,005 --> 00:07:51,750 prima di discutere di quanto sia economicamente proibitiva una versione di fine supporto. 137 00:07:51,750 --> 00:07:56,346 Ciò implica una progettazione dei giochi che permetta una disattivazione più agevole di tutti questi "microservizi". 138 00:07:56,347 --> 00:07:58,020 e' un'ottima idea. 139 00:07:58,020 --> 00:08:02,770 Il che implica anche che potrebbe non essere una soluzione attuabile per alcuni titoli attualmente in circolazione. 140 00:08:02,770 --> 00:08:06,660 Buona notizia per l'industria dei videogiochi che l'iniziativa non sia retroattiva. 141 00:08:06,660 --> 00:08:10,980 Giusto per dire, quasi tutti i publisher [NdT: Developers] hanno già un ambiente di test locale per i loro giochi, 142 00:08:10,980 --> 00:08:13,990 visto che mi e' stato detto non sia una pratica ottimale non averne uno. 143 00:08:13,990 --> 00:08:16,070 Meta' della nostra battaglia e' li. 144 00:08:16,070 --> 00:08:17,510 Quindi perche' questa presa di posizione? 145 00:08:17,740 --> 00:08:19,805 No. Questa e' ai livelli di un meme 146 00:08:19,805 --> 00:08:24,660 Non credo all’industria quando dice che è talmente costoso da essere impossibile. 147 00:08:24,660 --> 00:08:27,380 Specialmente quando questa cosa e' gia stata fatta tante volte prima. 148 00:08:27,380 --> 00:08:29,620 La storia delle cinture di sicurezza di nuovo. 149 00:08:29,620 --> 00:08:33,805 E perché non coinvolgere anche i grandi sviluppatori <b>europei</b> esclusi da questa lista? 150 00:08:33,805 --> 00:08:36,380 Come CD-Projekt o Larian. 151 00:08:36,380 --> 00:08:40,230 "Siamo lieti di avere l’opportunità di discutere la nostra posizione con i responsabili politici." 152 00:08:40,230 --> 00:08:41,510 Ci avrei scommesso. 153 00:08:41,510 --> 00:08:45,500 "e coloro che guideranno l'Iniziativa dei Cittadini Europei nei prossimi mesi." 154 00:08:45,500 --> 00:08:49,404 Beh, saranno felici di sapere che non sono io. 155 00:08:49,460 --> 00:08:52,180 Non sono il portavoce ufficiale di questa iniziativa 156 00:08:52,180 --> 00:08:55,366 Non sono idoneo. Sono piu' un super-promoter. 157 00:08:56,069 --> 00:08:57,800 La ragione per la quale sto facendo questo video 158 00:08:57,801 --> 00:09:01,220 è che voglio mettere le persone in guardia contro questi argomenti presentati in malafede. 159 00:09:01,220 --> 00:09:05,030 Ricordate, tutto quello che dicono qui e' solamente una scusa. 160 00:09:05,030 --> 00:09:10,130 per toglierti ciò che hai acquistato, senza indicare alcuna tempistica, e distruggerlo per sempre. 161 00:09:10,130 --> 00:09:13,100 Secondo voi e' una scusa valida? 162 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:14,540 Per me non lo e' 163 00:09:14,540 --> 00:09:16,260 Specialmente quando stanno mentendo. 164 00:09:16,260 --> 00:09:18,710 E penso che valga la pena prenderlo in considareazione. 165 00:09:18,710 --> 00:09:21,610 A tal proposito, Hanno pubblicato una dichiarazione un po' piu' lunga 166 00:09:21,610 --> 00:09:23,510 Ma devo davvero commentarla? 167 00:09:23,510 --> 00:09:27,953 "Perche' dare supporto illimitato non funzionerebbe per tutti i giochi." 168 00:09:27,953 --> 00:09:30,420 Ci risiamo. 169 00:09:30,420 --> 00:09:33,360 Quindi non capiscono neanche cio' che stiamo chiedendo 170 00:09:33,361 --> 00:09:35,780 Sapete cosa? Lascio che lo capiscano da soli 171 00:09:35,780 --> 00:09:37,830 Ne ho gia' parlato abbastanza 172 00:09:37,830 --> 00:09:40,360 Se lo devo spiegare per la 500esima volta 173 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,150 Voglio almeno che sia a qualcuno che non sia pagato per sminuirci. 174 00:09:44,150 --> 00:09:47,560 Ora, presumo che useranno tutto questo per fare pressione sui politici. 175 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:49,540 ma possiamo anche noi provare a fare la nostra parte 176 00:09:49,540 --> 00:09:52,870 Se sei anche tu super motivato da tutto questo e sei un cittadino dell'Unione Europea 177 00:09:52,870 --> 00:09:57,260 puoi contattare un membro del parlamento dell'unione europea per parlagli dell'iniziativa 178 00:09:57,260 --> 00:09:59,254 Mi è stato detto che dovresti rivolgerti a quelli del 179 00:09:59,254 --> 00:10:01,620 <b>Commissione per il mercato interno e la protezione dei consumatori</b> 180 00:10:01,620 --> 00:10:03,620 Trovi il link in descrizione 181 00:10:03,620 --> 00:10:05,650 Scegli quello del tuo stato 182 00:10:05,650 --> 00:10:09,590 E ora riporto solo quello che mi è stato detto, io non ne ho idea, 183 00:10:09,590 --> 00:10:13,830 Ma mi hanno detto di evitare PfE e ESN, 184 00:10:13,830 --> 00:10:18,470 perché mi è stato spiegato che non sono esattamente noti per essere molto operativi. 185 00:10:18,470 --> 00:10:21,880 E l’ultimo consiglio è che molte email che ricevono finiscono sotterrate dalle altre. 186 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,460 Quindi, se vuoi qualcosa che attiri l’attenzione, mi è stato suggerito questo oggetto. 187 00:10:25,460 --> 00:10:30,178 Oltre 1M+ di firme per l'Iniziativa dei Cittadini Europei "Stop Destroying Videogames": 188 00:10:30,178 --> 00:10:32,866 Aiutateci a proteggere i diritti dei consumatori digitali! 189 00:10:32,866 --> 00:10:36,898 E questo è tutto quello che so sul fatto che Videogames Europe sta facendo gruppo contro di noi. 190 00:10:37,066 --> 00:10:38,966 Per ora, credo. 191 00:10:38,967 --> 00:10:40,950 Un ultimo aggiornamento sull'ultimo video: 192 00:10:40,950 --> 00:10:44,060 Non avevo intenzione di spaventare tutti quelli che hanno firmato 193 00:10:44,060 --> 00:10:47,166 Se hai commesso un errore innocente, durante la firma. 194 00:10:47,167 --> 00:10:49,590 non contera', ma non ti preoccupare 195 00:10:49,590 --> 00:10:52,000 Non avrai alcun problema con la legge. 196 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,280 Semplicemente non falsificare le firme, quello si che e' un grosso problema. 197 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,080 e, non firmare se non hai l'eta' per votare. 198 00:10:59,633 --> 00:11:02,360 L'ho gia' detto prima, ma e' passato un po' di tempo. 199 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,627 Ci sono sempre 50 cose da dire. 200 00:11:04,730 --> 00:11:08,720 Se hai commesso qualche errore, dovresti riuscire a correggerlo 201 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,480 Contatta il portavoce ufficiale, Daniel. 202 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,813 I suoi dettagli li trovi sulla pagina dell'iniziativa. 203 00:11:13,970 --> 00:11:15,380 Va bene, e' tutto! 204 00:11:15,380 --> 00:11:18,160 Continuate a firmare per assicurarci che diventi realta'. [Tradotto da j3ax/Crius]
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Heads up, starting to see obvious AI-generated comments attempting to (badly) refute the campaign. This comment was so ridiculous they obviously took it down, but I have no doubt the industry and its sycophants are fervently trying to adapt to come up with the best responses to slow this down. A common thread I'm seeing now is pushing for the middle-ground "lets' just put disclaimers or notices to warn customers the game could shut down at any time" solution, sidestepping the entire issue of games preservation.
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The industry is lobbying against Stop Killing Games!
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By aywee. Description: Несколько обновлений! Говорим про миллион подписей, фантомные подписи, петицию Великобритании и прочее. Ссылка на Инициативу Европейских Граждан: https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home Ссылка на петицию правительству Великобритании: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/702074/ Ссылка на контакты Членов Парламента: https://www.parliament.uk/get-involved/contact-an-mp-or-lord/contact-your-mp/ 0:00 Быстрый рост Европейской Инициативы + фантомные подписи 4:02 Уведомление для граждан Италии и друзей 4:23 Клоунская монета 4:44 Издевательства - плохо, п’нятно? 6:15 Безумее с сообщениями 6:29 Петиция Великобритании одобрена! #StopKillingGames https://stopkillinggames.com 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,080 Привет, я пришёл с объявлениями по Stop Killing Games, 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,840 и я буду часто смотреть в сторону, 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,720 потому что когда я смотрю в камеру, то могу выпасть из реальности, 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,966 и я не хочу зубрить текст. 5 00:00:10,966 --> 00:00:13,600 Окей, последние новости: 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,520 Инициатива Европейских Граждан получила 1 миллион подписей. 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,400 На самом деле - нет. 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,240 Это подорвёт мораль, но мне нужно отметить две проблемы. 9 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:26,240 Первая была ожидаемой. 10 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:29,200 Каждый раз, когда кто-то оставляет свою подпись и делает ошибку, 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,200 их подпись не засчитывается. 12 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,040 Это значит, что нам необходимо больше подписей для компенсации ошибок. 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,880 Это напоминает ситуацию, когда в мультиплеерной игре 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,760 некоторые игроки не понимают, что надо делать, 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,560 стреляют в стену, и так далее. 16 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:43,840 Поэтому в нашей ситуации, 17 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,520 необходимо восполнить пробел за тех, 18 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,940 кто буквально не может вписать своё имя без ошибок. 19 00:00:48,940 --> 00:00:51,120 Таких может быть много. 20 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,967 Насколько я знаю, нам нужно 10% минимум, 21 00:00:52,967 --> 00:00:54,734 20% - лучше, 22 00:00:54,734 --> 00:00:57,433 40% должно обезопасить инициативу. 23 00:00:57,433 --> 00:01:00,880 Должно, но у нас есть вторая проблема. 24 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,367 Я получил несколько отчётов, 25 00:01:02,367 --> 00:01:06,240 которые утвержают, что подписи под инициативой были подделаны. 26 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,240 Во-первых, хочу отметить, что Инициатива - это не типичная петиция с сайта Change.org. 27 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,240 Это - правительственный процесс. 28 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,360 В данном случае подделка подписей - это преступление. 29 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,066 Пожалуйста, не делайте этого. 30 00:01:17,066 --> 00:01:20,080 Подписи будут позже проверены Еврокомиссией, 31 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,080 и, насколько я догадываюсь, поддельные будут переданы в Европол или Интерпол, 32 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,633 и уже они будут заниматься расследованием. 33 00:01:25,633 --> 00:01:27,600 Если поддельные подписи идут из Америки, 34 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,200 то, как известно, Интерпол может скооперироваться с ФБР. 35 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,760 Будут ли они преследовать людей в судебном порядке? 36 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,360 Понятия не имею. 37 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,320 Европа относится к своим политическим процессам крайне серьёзно, 38 00:01:38,320 --> 00:01:40,240 поэтому, как я думаю, чем больше будет поддельных подписей, 39 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,840 тем выше вероятность, что правоохранительные органы займутся поддельщиками. 40 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,320 Опять же, я рекомендую не заниматься этим. 41 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:49,766 Очень глупо рисковать своей свободой ради этого. 42 00:01:49,766 --> 00:01:51,234 Проблема заключается в том, что 43 00:01:51,234 --> 00:01:56,080 я теперь в полном тумане, насколько это повлияло на Инициативу. 44 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,120 Но, не волнуйтесь. 45 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,360 Факт наличия недействительных подписей не делает саму Инициативу недействительной. 46 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,000 Все легальные подписи будут засчитаны. 47 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,160 Но само число в 1 миллион? 48 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,560 Да, оно может быть нереальным. 49 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,760 Я думаю, у нас как минимум 600-700 тысяч реальных подписей. 50 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,080 За пределами этого, я не знаю. 51 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,000 Может быть, это был один или двоё человек, кто поставил фальшивые подписи, 52 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,160 и тогда нам не о чем волноваться. 53 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,320 Или это искушённый ботнет, 54 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,800 который подделал сотни тысяч подписей. 55 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,640 Я понятия не имею. 56 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:26,560 По сути, я заметил несколько дней назад, 57 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,600 как было повышение показателей днём, по Европейскому времени, 58 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,360 а потом понижение ночью, потому что люди ложились спать. 59 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,080 А теперь, видим большое повышение ночью. 60 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,560 Поэтому, всё это может быть иллюзией. 61 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,800 И мы ничего не выиграли. 62 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,120 Отдам должное. 63 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,960 Я рассчитывал, что Инициатива наберёт запас прочности, и я оставлю её позади, 64 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,840 но теперь мне придётся продолжать в том же духе до 31 Июля, 65 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,640 потому что такого понятия как "запас прочности" больше не существует. 66 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:54,960 Я теперь не представляю, что реально. 67 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,240 Так что, те люди, которые ненавидят Инициативу, меня поймали. 68 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,760 Моя жизнь стала сложнее, и я на крючке ещё дольше. 69 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,280 Я буду счастлив, когда эта кампания закончится. 70 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,800 Если вы разбираетесь в анализе данных, 71 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,100 я бы сказал, посмотрите первые дни, между 24 и 25 Июня, 72 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:15,840 особенно когда MoistCr1TiKaL выпустил своё первое видео. 73 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,720 Я помню, когда увидел прирост подписей в 5%, которые пропорциональны просмотрам. 74 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:26,160 Можно с уверенностью предположить, что просмотры больших видео на YouTube преобразились в 5% реальных подписей. 75 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,360 Может, вы сможете вычислить, насколько большим запас прочности должен быть. 76 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,000 Так что да, полный отстой. 77 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,240 Придётся поработать, пока не поймем, сколько подписей нам необходимо. 78 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,960 Простите, что испортил праздник. 79 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,680 В итоге, настроения напряжённые и натянутые, 80 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,400 и мораль у оставляющих подписей будет подорвана. 81 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,760 Знаете, как во Второй мировой войне, 82 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,360 Японцы внедрили своих солдат в тихоокеанские острова, 83 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,360 некоторые из них не получили сообщение, что война закончилась в 1945 году, 84 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,200 и продолжали сидеть годами, думаю, что война продолжается? 85 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,840 Вот такое у меня сейчас умственное состояние. 86 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,300 По крайней мере всё закончится через месяц. 87 00:04:02,300 --> 00:04:05,040 Окей, новое объявление: 88 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,680 Мы получили сообщения, что в некоторых странах, конкретно в Италии и Бельгии, 89 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,120 иногда некорректно работает система ID. 90 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,240 В таких случаях, я рекомендую заполнить данные вручную, 91 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,520 как написано в нашей инструкции на StopKillingGames.com, 92 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,120 или зайти на сайт с Инициативой позже через несколько дней. 93 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,400 Другая новость. 94 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,280 Нам сообщили, что кто-то запустил криптовалюту, 95 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:30,080 основанную на Stop Killing Games. 96 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,880 Как я и говорил, самый глупый сценарий. 97 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,480 Чтобы всем было ясно, мы не имеем ничего общего с этим. 98 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,120 Я понятия не имею, кто это сделал. 99 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,080 Я уверен, что это - мошенничество. 100 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,166 Так что да, вот и всё. 101 00:04:44,166 --> 00:04:46,160 Кое-что, что я бы хотел быстро затронуть, - 102 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,320 я получил сообщения, что люди притесняют Pirate Software. 103 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,380 Мне кажется, что это понятно без слов, но всё-таки 104 00:04:53,380 --> 00:04:57,600 нет, я не поддерживаю его притеснение. 105 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,467 Как я говорил в своём видео-ответе, 106 00:04:59,467 --> 00:05:02,540 я не желаю ему зла, и это - искренне. 107 00:05:02,540 --> 00:05:04,080 Почему? 108 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,000 Когда жизни людей ничего не мешает, 109 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,520 они менее склонны к мести, 110 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,120 и я уже принимаю много ударов без этого скандала. 111 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,300 Мне тоже сумашедшие пишут гадости. 112 00:05:16,300 --> 00:05:18,960 Хотя я могу поверить, что ему пишут куда больше. 113 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,800 Также, в прошлый раз я отметил, 114 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,560 что весь урон по кампании от Тора был нейтрализован. 115 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,080 Так что всё, что произойдёт дальше, будет не по его вине. 116 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,840 Хочу сказать, что я не знаю, кто чем вообще, чёрт возьми, занимается. 117 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:33,520 Всё это больше меня. 118 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:38,480 Я с самой кампанией кое-как поспеваю, что уж говорить о нём или сторонниках. 119 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,760 В нашем Дискорде есть модераторы, которые стараются как могут. 120 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,840 Я буквально увидел, как человек, который затевал плохое против других, получил бан. 121 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:48,000 Помимо это, я мало осведомлён, 122 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,600 и у меня нет контроля над всем остальным Интернетом. 123 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,600 Я сфокусирован на подписях. 124 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,080 Если Тор и я больше не будем беспокоить друг друга, 125 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,280 то я не возражаю. 126 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:02,780 Также я не буду привлекать его к ответственности за поступки его фанатов. 127 00:06:02,780 --> 00:06:05,360 Мне не нравится коллективное наказание. 128 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,467 С другой стороны, 129 00:06:06,467 --> 00:06:09,120 Stop Killing Games является популистким движением. 130 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,520 Это само по себе - определение беспорядка. 131 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,040 Я контролирую его также, как контролирую погоду. 132 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,520 Кстати, о том, за чем я не поспеваю: 133 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,320 Мне приходится сортировать электронные письма и сообщения 134 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,680 и приоритизировать то, что крайне важно для кампании. 135 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,920 Так что, многие из вас получат ответ с задержкой, 136 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,840 но я наверстаю упущенное 137 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:29,200 ...когда-нибудь. 138 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,520 Окей, последнее объявление: 139 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,600 Петиция правительству Великобритании получила 100000 подписей, 140 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,720 и я полагаю, что они - более легитимны, 141 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,820 хотя вы можете продолжать оставлять подписи, чтобы набрать запас прочности. 142 00:06:41,820 --> 00:06:44,240 Уж точно не навредит. 143 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,640 Итак, чего можно ожидать? 144 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,880 Буду честен, я не знаю. 145 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:53,200 Я могу поставить деньги на то, что Европейская Инициатива может привести к хорошим результатам, 146 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,880 а вот петиция Великобритании была одним из вариантов, который нужно было исчерпать. 147 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,560 Я скажу, что любой исход 148 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,320 не будет хуже старого ответа 149 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,340 от Департамента Медиа, Культуры и Спорта. 150 00:07:03,340 --> 00:07:06,320 Да, мы сможем миновать этот мусор. 151 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,400 Да, это буквально переработанный мусор. 152 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,880 Напомню, мы пытались запустить петицию в прошлом году, 153 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,900 и получили настолько плохой ответ, 154 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:14,800 что он был отвергнут Комитетом по петициям, 155 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,460 что необходимо дать новый ответ, потому что текущий не отвечает на вопрос. 156 00:07:18,460 --> 00:07:20,800 Но потом Парламент был распущен, 157 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,280 и когда мы вернулись и перезапустили петицию, 158 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,800 мы получили буквальную копипасту, 159 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,560 в которой переставили предложения. 160 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,120 Я немного подозреваю, что наши действия в Великобритании 161 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,720 спотыкаются об одного сварливого бюрократа из Департамента. 162 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,240 Теперь, мы можем проигнорировать этот мусор, и обратиться напрямую в Парламент. 163 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,480 Уж точно, хуже не будет. 164 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,280 Член Парламента может начихать на петицию, 165 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,200 и это не будет худшим ответом. 166 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:50,240 Гарантированным результатом, который мы получим, будут ответы. 167 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,600 Для тех, кто хочет выдавить из этого ещё больше, 168 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,080 до моего внимания довели, 169 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,960 что имеется страница по поиску членов Парламента, 170 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,466 к которым вы можете обратиться и сказать, "Да, это нужно обсудить в Парламенте". 171 00:08:01,466 --> 00:08:03,920 Ну, скажу, что да, это может помочь. 172 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,960 Но это требует больше усилий, чем оставить подпись, 173 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,280 поэтому я на это не особо рассчитываю. 174 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,666 Ссылку оставлю в описании к данному видео. 175 00:08:11,666 --> 00:08:13,100 На этом всё. 176 00:08:13,100 --> 00:08:14,720 Продолжайте продвижение. 177 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,120 Теперь мы в тумане. 178 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,361 [Русские субтитры - aywee]
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1 00:00:00,150 --> 00:00:04,246 Hello! I have a development on the "Stop Killing Games" campaign. 2 00:00:05,050 --> 00:00:09,670 Now, as I mentioned earlier, it's recently crossed the one million signature mark. 3 00:00:09,670 --> 00:00:11,537 Though I'm assuming nothing. 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,320 In fact, I've been given stats that there was a previous initiative 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,110 that had 250,000 of its signatures invalidated. 6 00:00:19,110 --> 00:00:21,620 And I could see us setting a new record there. 7 00:00:21,620 --> 00:00:24,287 So keep signing. That's the first thing. 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,060 Second, for anyone who doubts how powerful this initiative can be, 9 00:00:29,060 --> 00:00:33,700 we now have a lobbying group issuing a statement about us. 10 00:00:33,700 --> 00:00:36,580 Do you think if we had no chance of changing things, 11 00:00:36,580 --> 00:00:39,600 we would have lobbyists coming out against us? 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,010 Well, a big one is Video Games Europe. 13 00:00:43,010 --> 00:00:46,550 Best I can tell, this is essentially the voice of the industry. 14 00:00:46,550 --> 00:00:49,670 So of course they're going to be against any proposal we make, 15 00:00:49,670 --> 00:00:53,960 because they're ideologically opposed to us being able to retain our games. 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,427 I really can't emphasize that enough. 17 00:00:56,500 --> 00:01:00,148 Even if every developer in the world was for our proposal, 18 00:01:00,390 --> 00:01:02,990 the industry would still be against it. 19 00:01:03,030 --> 00:01:06,470 Because it's not developers who make most of the big decisions. 20 00:01:06,470 --> 00:01:09,414 It's shareholders and companies worth billions. 21 00:01:09,430 --> 00:01:13,485 So with that in mind, let's go through this statement quick by our opposition here. 22 00:01:13,485 --> 00:01:15,990 "We appreciate the passion of our community. 23 00:01:15,990 --> 00:01:20,290 "However, the decision to discontinue online services is multifaceted, 24 00:01:20,290 --> 00:01:23,120 "never taken lightly, and must be an option for companies 25 00:01:23,121 --> 00:01:26,702 "when an online experience is no longer commercially viable." 26 00:01:26,702 --> 00:01:30,150 Well, I have great news for you, Video Games Europe. 27 00:01:30,150 --> 00:01:35,014 We are in no way seeking to impede your right to discontinue online services. 28 00:01:35,300 --> 00:01:38,666 We are saying you can shut down your games whenever you want. 29 00:01:38,666 --> 00:01:41,270 But you have to do that responsibly, 30 00:01:41,270 --> 00:01:45,622 in a way that doesn't take back rights you already sold to customers. 31 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,190 Yeah, some people forget that companies have to sell you some rights to begin with, 32 00:01:49,190 --> 00:01:51,066 to even play the games. 33 00:01:51,700 --> 00:01:54,600 "We understand that it can be disappointing for players, 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,415 "but when it does happen, the industry ensures that players are given fair notice 35 00:01:58,415 --> 00:02:02,840 "of the prospective changes in compliance with local consumer protection laws." 36 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,860 Okay, well first off, I'm not a lawyer, but this guy at WBS Legal is. 37 00:02:07,860 --> 00:02:11,613 And he thinks Ubisoft probably broke the law when it shut down "The Crew", 38 00:02:11,614 --> 00:02:13,990 giving players only three months notice, 39 00:02:13,990 --> 00:02:16,500 when they should have given more like two years. 40 00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:19,540 Yeah, you know. Ubisoft? One of your members? 41 00:02:19,540 --> 00:02:23,560 So this is probably a false statement out the gate. 42 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,200 But you know what? That's not even our issue. 43 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,350 So I don't even care how much notice you're giving the players. 44 00:02:29,350 --> 00:02:33,333 What I care about is that you're not depriving them of their purchase. 45 00:02:33,333 --> 00:02:37,400 "Private servers are not always a viable alternative option for players, 46 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,300 "as the protections we put in place to secure players' data, 47 00:02:40,300 --> 00:02:43,960 "remove illegal content, and combat unsafe community content, 48 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,110 "would not exist and would leave rights holders liable." 49 00:02:47,110 --> 00:02:50,600 Okay, several things here. We have to break it down. 50 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,730 "Private servers are not always a viable alternative option." 51 00:02:54,730 --> 00:02:59,240 So they're saying for a new game concept, which hasn't even been made yet, 52 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,993 sometimes there is NO WAY they can add an end-of-life plan to the design? 53 00:03:04,666 --> 00:03:07,802 Their programmers' fingers simply can't type that? 54 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,808 I would love to see them say this to a room full of developers. 55 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,450 I think the industry would be surprised how viable it was 56 00:03:15,450 --> 00:03:18,470 if the law said you can't take back the limited license rights 57 00:03:18,470 --> 00:03:20,400 you already sold to the customer. 58 00:03:20,550 --> 00:03:24,160 And this next part. Yes, this part is true. 59 00:03:24,310 --> 00:03:28,470 Players will absolutely be getting a rougher and more wild experience 60 00:03:28,470 --> 00:03:30,160 playing an unsupported game. 61 00:03:30,310 --> 00:03:33,177 I happen to know a thing or two about that. 62 00:03:33,610 --> 00:03:37,266 So yes, that's the nature of anything unsupported. 63 00:03:37,810 --> 00:03:41,394 That's not a good excuse to destroy what people paid for. 64 00:03:41,455 --> 00:03:43,270 It just means they're on their own. 65 00:03:43,270 --> 00:03:45,270 But then they say this part: 66 00:03:45,270 --> 00:03:47,840 "It would leave rights holders liable." 67 00:03:47,959 --> 00:03:49,566 Okay, I am not a lawyer, 68 00:03:49,567 --> 00:03:53,750 but my first impression is, this strikes me as very not true. 69 00:03:53,750 --> 00:03:55,933 The way I read this, they're saying they are 70 00:03:55,933 --> 00:03:58,950 incapable of writing an end-user license agreement 71 00:03:58,950 --> 00:04:02,020 that absolves them of all liability on shutdown. 72 00:04:02,020 --> 00:04:06,710 Like planning for end-of-life, apparently it's just not possible. 73 00:04:06,710 --> 00:04:08,340 So me, as a layman, 74 00:04:08,341 --> 00:04:12,020 I'm wondering what's the problem with adding a line like this to the EULA? 75 00:04:12,020 --> 00:04:16,586 "Once our company ends support, we are not responsible for any and all issues 76 00:04:16,586 --> 00:04:19,333 "that arise from users continuing to operate the game 77 00:04:19,334 --> 00:04:21,960 "in a discontinued and unsupported state, 78 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,833 "and absolve ourselves from any and all liability pertaining to its continued use." 79 00:04:26,833 --> 00:04:30,500 There's probably a better way to say that, but you get the idea. 80 00:04:30,500 --> 00:04:34,620 They seem to be saying a line like that is just impossible to write. 81 00:04:34,620 --> 00:04:37,564 See, I'm puzzled by this, because as a consumer, 82 00:04:37,670 --> 00:04:40,680 I've seen all kinds of things have support end, 83 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,752 but I still get to keep them; I'm just on my own. 84 00:04:44,340 --> 00:04:46,140 That's a very common thing. 85 00:04:46,570 --> 00:04:49,433 I think we need a lawyer to weigh in on this. 86 00:04:49,433 --> 00:04:51,430 So if we take them at their word, 87 00:04:51,430 --> 00:04:54,520 it sounds like they're concerned about protecting customers. 88 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,933 Okay, but their solution is customers must have 89 00:04:57,934 --> 00:05:00,580 their purchase taken away from them forever. 90 00:05:00,580 --> 00:05:05,390 "We have to destroy our customers' games to protect them from themselves." 91 00:05:05,390 --> 00:05:09,480 I normally don't like to use this phrase because it's thrown around too much, 92 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,120 but this is beyond 'Nanny State' 93 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,587 This is more like 'Terminator State'. 94 00:05:14,950 --> 00:05:17,417 Take a game like "Starsiege: Tribes". 95 00:05:17,933 --> 00:05:22,415 For all purposes, that's a game intended to run online, with other people, 96 00:05:22,415 --> 00:05:24,815 or over a network at the very least. 97 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,853 It was discontinued in 2004, but you can still run it today. Online. 98 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,450 This lobbying group seems to be saying that's a liability. 99 00:05:34,450 --> 00:05:37,690 "No one should have been permitted to run this game after 2004, 100 00:05:37,690 --> 00:05:40,580 "and it's a mistake that this game is still allowed to exist 101 00:05:40,580 --> 00:05:42,780 "because of the risk to consumers. 102 00:05:43,166 --> 00:05:47,870 "We would have destroyed every last copy of it back in 2004 if we could have. 103 00:05:47,870 --> 00:05:50,440 "We couldn't then, but we can now. 104 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,340 "So that's our business model with new games." 105 00:05:53,490 --> 00:05:57,240 See, I take that as extremely hostile, 106 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,573 to both customers and preservation. 107 00:06:00,590 --> 00:06:06,070 So my question is, why can't we allow customers to continue playing the game, 108 00:06:06,071 --> 00:06:09,046 but adding a splash screen saying something like, 109 00:06:09,047 --> 00:06:12,340 "Warning! This game is no longer supported. 110 00:06:12,340 --> 00:06:15,110 "Running it could represent a risk to your security. 111 00:06:15,110 --> 00:06:18,694 "We assume no liability for what may happen as a result." 112 00:06:18,951 --> 00:06:21,751 That strikes me as a reasonable compromise. 113 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,630 "In addition, many titles are designed from the ground-up to be online only. 114 00:06:26,630 --> 00:06:30,095 "In effect, these proposals would curtail developer choice 115 00:06:30,095 --> 00:06:33,675 "by making these video games prohibitively expensive to create." 116 00:06:33,675 --> 00:06:38,135 Okay, this part is a little more complicated because every game is different. 117 00:06:38,135 --> 00:06:39,806 But when I see this, 118 00:06:39,807 --> 00:06:43,860 I'm thinking of auto manufacturers saying how they can't afford to make cars 119 00:06:43,860 --> 00:06:46,340 if they're required to include seatbelts in them. 120 00:06:46,340 --> 00:06:49,860 Because no one ever made that argument back in the 60's. 121 00:06:50,090 --> 00:06:54,890 However, I think there is a big piece being left out of the discussion here. 122 00:06:54,900 --> 00:06:58,950 A whole lot of the complexity and cost of making an online game 123 00:06:58,950 --> 00:07:01,460 comes from all the microservices involved. 124 00:07:01,460 --> 00:07:02,870 And guess what? 125 00:07:02,870 --> 00:07:06,870 We don't need the vast majority of them for an end-of-life build. 126 00:07:06,870 --> 00:07:11,385 I talked to a developer and he gave me a big list of examples we don't need. 127 00:07:11,385 --> 00:07:16,630 Payment processing, anti-cheat, analytics, voice chat. 128 00:07:16,630 --> 00:07:21,300 There's so much here that's not necessary to just run the damn game. 129 00:07:21,300 --> 00:07:23,425 In fact, I have a quote from him. 130 00:07:23,425 --> 00:07:26,390 "We are not asking for 98% of the game. 131 00:07:26,390 --> 00:07:30,834 "We're asking for the 2% of game logic for main gameplay functionality." 132 00:07:30,834 --> 00:07:35,900 Except even that's not true. We're not asking for that directly. 133 00:07:35,900 --> 00:07:39,240 We're asking for the same rights we already bought for the game, 134 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,528 which they can probably fulfill by providing that 2%, as he puts it. 135 00:07:43,750 --> 00:07:47,005 So let's cut out all this extra crap 136 00:07:47,005 --> 00:07:51,750 before we start talking about how cost-prohibitive an end-of-life build is. 137 00:07:51,750 --> 00:07:56,346 Now, that does mean designing games so it's easier to turn off all these microservices 138 00:07:56,347 --> 00:07:58,020 is a very good idea. 139 00:07:58,020 --> 00:08:02,770 And that also means it may not be practical for some existing games. 140 00:08:02,770 --> 00:08:06,660 Good thing for the industry the initiative is not retroactive. 141 00:08:06,660 --> 00:08:10,980 And most publishers already have a local test environment for a game, 142 00:08:10,980 --> 00:08:13,990 which I'm told is bad practice not to. 143 00:08:13,990 --> 00:08:16,070 That's half the battle right there. 144 00:08:16,070 --> 00:08:17,510 So this statement? 145 00:08:17,740 --> 00:08:19,805 No. This one is meme-level. 146 00:08:19,805 --> 00:08:24,660 I do not believe the industry when they say this is so expensive it's not possible. 147 00:08:24,660 --> 00:08:27,380 Especially when it's been done many times before. 148 00:08:27,380 --> 00:08:29,620 This is seatbelts all over again. 149 00:08:29,620 --> 00:08:33,805 And how about getting input from big European developers NOT on this list? 150 00:08:33,805 --> 00:08:36,380 Like CD Projekt or Larian. 151 00:08:36,380 --> 00:08:40,230 "We welcome the opportunity to discuss our position with policy makers" 152 00:08:40,230 --> 00:08:41,510 Yeah, I bet you do. 153 00:08:41,510 --> 00:08:45,500 "and those who have led the European Citizens Initiative in the coming months." 154 00:08:45,500 --> 00:08:49,404 Well, they'll probably be glad to know that's actually not me. 155 00:08:49,460 --> 00:08:52,180 I am not the official spokesperson for the initiative. 156 00:08:52,180 --> 00:08:55,366 I'm ineligible. I'm more of a super-promoter. 157 00:08:56,069 --> 00:08:57,800 The reason I'm making this video 158 00:08:57,801 --> 00:09:01,220 is I want to inoculate people against these bad faith arguments. 159 00:09:01,220 --> 00:09:05,030 Remember, everything they're saying here is their excuse 160 00:09:05,030 --> 00:09:10,130 for taking away your purchase, with no time frame given, and destroying it forever. 161 00:09:10,130 --> 00:09:13,100 Is this a good enough excuse for you? 162 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:14,540 It isn't for me. 163 00:09:14,540 --> 00:09:16,260 Especially when they're lying. 164 00:09:16,260 --> 00:09:18,710 I think that's worth taking into consideration. 165 00:09:18,710 --> 00:09:21,610 And on that note, they also released a longer statement. 166 00:09:21,610 --> 00:09:23,510 But do I really need to go over this? 167 00:09:23,510 --> 00:09:27,953 "Why providing continued support do not work for all games." 168 00:09:27,953 --> 00:09:30,420 Oh, we're back to the classics! 169 00:09:30,420 --> 00:09:33,360 Okay, so they don't even understand what we're asking for. 170 00:09:33,361 --> 00:09:35,780 You know what? I'm gonna let them figure it out. 171 00:09:35,780 --> 00:09:37,830 I played that song enough already. 172 00:09:37,830 --> 00:09:40,360 If I have to explain that a 500th time, 173 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,150 I want it to at least be to someone who's not being paid to undermine us. 174 00:09:44,150 --> 00:09:47,560 Now they're going to be lobbying politicians with this, I'm assuming, 175 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:49,540 but we can try and do our part too. 176 00:09:49,540 --> 00:09:52,870 If you're super motivated on this, and are part of the EU, 177 00:09:52,870 --> 00:09:57,260 you can contact a member of European Parliament and tell them about the initiative. 178 00:09:57,260 --> 00:09:59,254 I've been told you should target ones in the 179 00:09:59,254 --> 00:10:01,620 Internal Market and Consumer Protection Committee. 180 00:10:01,620 --> 00:10:03,620 There's a link in the description below. 181 00:10:03,620 --> 00:10:05,650 Just pick one for your country. 182 00:10:05,650 --> 00:10:09,590 And I'm just relaying this next part, I have no idea myself, 183 00:10:09,590 --> 00:10:13,830 But I've been told you should maybe avoid PfE and ESN, 184 00:10:13,830 --> 00:10:18,470 as they're not known for "doing things", is how it was explained to me. 185 00:10:18,470 --> 00:10:21,880 And the last bit of advice is, a lot of email to them gets buried. 186 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,460 So if you want something that stands out, this title was suggested to me. 187 00:10:25,460 --> 00:10:30,178 "1M+ sign European Citizens Initiative 'Stop Destroying Video Games': 188 00:10:30,178 --> 00:10:32,866 "Help us protect gamers' consumer rights!" 189 00:10:32,866 --> 00:10:36,898 And that's all I have on Video Games Europe lobbying against us. 190 00:10:37,066 --> 00:10:38,966 For now, I guess. 191 00:10:38,967 --> 00:10:40,950 A quick update to the last video: 192 00:10:40,950 --> 00:10:44,060 I didn't mean to scare the hell out of everyone signing. 193 00:10:44,060 --> 00:10:47,166 If you made an honest mistake filling out the initiative, 194 00:10:47,167 --> 00:10:49,590 it won't count, but don't worry. 195 00:10:49,590 --> 00:10:52,000 I don't think you'll be in any trouble with the law. 196 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,280 Just don't spoof fake signatures; that's the part that's a big deal. 197 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,080 Also, don't sign if you're not voting age. 198 00:10:59,633 --> 00:11:02,360 I've said this before, but it's been a while. 199 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,627 There's always 50 things to cover. 200 00:11:04,730 --> 00:11:08,720 Finally, if you have made a mistake, you might be able to get it corrected. 201 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,480 Get in touch with the official spokesperson, Daniel. 202 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,813 His info is on the initiative page. 203 00:11:13,970 --> 00:11:15,380 All right, that's it. 204 00:11:15,380 --> 00:11:18,160 Keep signing to make sure this happens.
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Yup. The forums may be quite barren these days, but I'm still gonna win this. ;)
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The industry is lobbying against Stop Killing Games! I think we're stirring up the hive. This is a blog post. To read the original post, please click here »
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The industry is lobbying against Stop Killing Games! I think we're stirring up the hive.
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By Daniel 2 the doppelgänger once again. Title: Actualizare importantă despre „Opriți Distrugerea Jocurilor”! Description: Mai multe noutăți! Discutăm despre depășirea pragului de 1.000.000 de semnături, problema semnăturilor „fantomă”, Petiția din Regatul Unit și nu numai. Link către Inițiativa Cetățenească Europeană: https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home?lg=ro Link către Petiția Guvernului Regatului Unit: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/702074/ Cum puteți contacta deputații din Regatul Unit: https://www.parliament.uk/get-involved/contact-an-mp-or-lord/contact-your-mp/ 00:00 Creșterea bruscă a semnăturilor în UE + semnăturile „fantomă” 04:02 Anunț important despre Italia și alte țări 04:23 Moneda clovn 04:44 Atacurile și hărțuirea nu sunt ok! 06:15 Confuzia mesajelor 06:29 Petiția din Regatul Unit a fost aprobată! #StopKillingGames https://stopkillinggames.com 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,080 Hey, am câteva anunțuri despre Stop Killing Games, 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,840 și o să mă uit în altă parte destul de des, 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,720 pentru că mintea mea se golește când mă uit în cameră, 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,966 și nu vreau să memorez asta. 5 00:00:10,966 --> 00:00:13,600 Okay, știrea de ultimă oră: 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,520 Inițiativa Cetățenească Europeană a depășit 1 milion de semnături. 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,400 Doar că nu a depășit. 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,240 Asta o să distrugă moralul, dar avem două probleme aici. 9 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:26,240 Prima știam că va veni. 10 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:29,200 De fiecare dată când cineva greșește când semnează Inițiativa, 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,700 semnătura lor este invalidată. 12 00:00:30,700 --> 00:00:32,701 Asta înseamnă că avem nevoie de mai multe semnături 13 00:00:32,701 --> 00:00:35,040 pentru a compensa greșelile tuturor. 14 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,880 Mă face să mă gândesc la jocurile multiplayer 15 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,760 când vezi pe cineva care habar n-are ce face, 16 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,560 de exemplu atacă un zid sau ceva de genul. 17 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:43,840 Deci, în acest caz, 18 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,520 trebuie să compensăm pentru oamenii 19 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,940 care nu pot să scrie numele lor corect. 20 00:00:48,940 --> 00:00:51,120 S-ar putea să fie mulți. 21 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,967 Am auzit că minim 10%, 22 00:00:52,967 --> 00:00:54,734 20% ar fi mai bine, 23 00:00:54,734 --> 00:00:57,433 40% ar fi foarte sigur. 24 00:00:57,433 --> 00:01:00,880 Sau ar fi, dar avem o a doua problemă. 25 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,367 Am primit mai multe rapoarte 26 00:01:02,367 --> 00:01:06,240 despre oameni care pretind că falsifică semnături pe site-ul Inițiativei. 27 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,240 În primul rând, vreau să spun că asta nu e o petiție Change.org. 28 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,240 E un proces guvernamental. 29 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,360 Falsificarea de semnături este o infracțiune. 30 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,066 Vă rog, nu faceți asta. 31 00:01:17,066 --> 00:01:20,080 Ele vor fi verificate mai târziu de Comisia Europeană, 32 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,080 și cred că cele false vor ajunge la Europol sau Interpol, 33 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,633 și vor investiga. 34 00:01:25,633 --> 00:01:27,600 Dacă vin din America, 35 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,200 Interpol cooperează strâns cu FBI-ul. 36 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,760 O să dea oamenii în judecată pentru asta? 37 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,360 Nu am nicio idee. 38 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,320 Europa ia foarte în serios procesele sale politice, 39 00:01:38,320 --> 00:01:40,240 așa că cred că cu cât se falsifică mai mult, 40 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,840 cu atât s-ar putea să trimită autoritățile după cei care fac asta. 41 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,320 Repet, nu aș sugera să faceți asta. 42 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:49,766 Pare un risc prost de închisoare. 43 00:01:49,766 --> 00:01:51,234 Dar problema este că 44 00:01:51,234 --> 00:01:56,080 acum sunt complet în ceață legat de cât afectează asta Inițiativa. 45 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,120 Dar, nu vă faceți griji. 46 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,360 Nimic din toate astea nu va invalida Inițiativa. 47 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,000 Toate semnăturile legitime vor conta în continuare. 48 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,160 Dar acel număr de 1 milion? 49 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,560 Da, s-ar putea să nu fie real. 50 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,760 Cred că avem cel puțin 600–700.000 de semnături reale. 51 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,880 Mai mult de atât, nu știu. 52 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,000 Poate sunt doar unu sau doi oameni care au încercat, 53 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,160 și nu e nimic de îngrijorat. 54 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,320 Sau poate e o rețea de boturi sofisticată 55 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,800 care falsifică sute de mii de semnături. 56 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,640 Nu am nicio idee. 57 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:26,560 De fapt, am observat acum câteva zile, 58 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,600 primeam o creștere bună în timpul zilei, ora europeană, 59 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,360 dar scădea noaptea, pentru că oamenii se duceau la culcare. 60 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,080 Acum, se pare că crește mult noaptea. 61 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,560 Deci, poate majoritatea sunt o iluzie acum. 62 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,800 Poate nu am câștigat nimic. 63 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,120 Trebuie să dau credit unde e cazul. 64 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,960 Așteptam să atingem un prag sigur și să închei povestea, 65 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,840 dar acum cred că trebuie să continui până pe 31 iulie, 66 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,640 pentru că acum nu mai există un prag sigur. 67 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:54,960 Nu știu ce e real acum. 68 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,240 Deci, pentru cei care urăsc Inițiativa, m-ați prins. 69 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,760 Asta îmi face viața mai grea, și acum sunt prins și mai mult timp. 70 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,280 O să fiu atât de fericit când se termină campania. 71 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,800 De fapt, dacă ești bun la analiză de date, 72 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,100 încearcă să te uiți la primele zile, pe 24 și 25 iunie, 73 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:15,840 mai ales când MoistCr1TiKaL a lansat video-ul său. 74 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,001 Îmi amintesc că am văzut o creștere de ~5% în semnături 75 00:03:19,001 --> 00:03:20,620 proporțional cu vizionările lui. 76 00:03:20,620 --> 00:03:22,301 Deci, s-ar putea să fie sigur să presupui 77 00:03:22,301 --> 00:03:26,160 că vizionările mari de YouTube = 5% semnături reale. 78 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,360 Poate poți calcula care e marja noastră reală necesară. 79 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,000 Deci, da, e nasol. 80 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,240 Vom continua să încercăm până ne dăm seama de numerele sigure. 81 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,960 Îmi pare rău că nu e o mare sărbătoare a victoriei. 82 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,680 E mai mult stresant și tensionat, 83 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,200 și probabil va afecta moralul semnatarilor. 84 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,760 Știți cum în Al Doilea Război Mondial, 85 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,360 japonezii aveau soldați pe niște insule din Pacific, 86 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,360 dar unii nu au primit vestea că războiul s-a terminat în 1945, 87 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,200 așa că au rămas acolo ani de zile, crezând că încă mai continuă? 88 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,840 Cam așa mă simt eu acum. 89 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,300 Măcar se termină peste o lună. 90 00:04:02,300 --> 00:04:05,040 Okay, alt anunț: 91 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,680 Am auzit că în unele țări, cred că Italia și Belgia mai ales, 92 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,120 uneori sistemul de ID digital nu a funcționat. 93 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,240 În cazurile alea, aș recomanda să folosiți metoda manuală, 94 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,520 pentru care avem instrucțiuni pe StopKillingGames.com, 95 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,120 sau puteți încerca să reveniți peste câteva zile să vedeți dacă merge. 96 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,400 Altă noutate, 97 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,280 am auzit că cineva a lansat o criptomonedă 98 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:30,080 bazată pe Stop Killing Games. 99 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,880 E cel mai prost timeline, prieteni. 100 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,480 Ca să fie clar, nu are nicio legătură cu noi. 101 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,120 Nu am idee cine ar vrea așa ceva. 102 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,080 Sunt sigur că e o înșelătorie. 103 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,166 Deci, da, asta e tot. 104 00:04:44,166 --> 00:04:46,160 Alt lucru rapid de menționat: 105 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,320 Am primit câteva rapoarte că oamenii îl hărțuiesc pe Pirate Software. 106 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,380 Cred că e de la sine înțeles, dar dacă nu, 107 00:04:53,380 --> 00:04:57,600 nu, desigur nu susținem hărțuirea. 108 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,467 Am spus în videoul meu de răspuns, 109 00:04:59,467 --> 00:05:02,540 nu îi doresc răul, și am vorbit serios. 110 00:05:02,540 --> 00:05:04,080 Știți de ce? 111 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,000 Când oamenii au vieți mai bune, 112 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,520 tind să fie mai puțin înclinați să plănuiască răzbunare, 113 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,120 și deja am destule probleme fără să mai adaug la ele. 114 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,300 Adică, și eu am de-a face cu niște nebuni. 115 00:05:16,300 --> 00:05:18,960 Dar cred că nu la fel de mulți. 116 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,800 Am mai spus data trecută, 117 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,560 orice pagubă a făcut Thor campaniei a fost neutralizată. 118 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,080 Deci, orice se întâmplă nu mai e vina lui. 119 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,840 Mai spun și că nici eu nu știu ce naiba mai face lumea. 120 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:33,520 Asta e mult mai mare decât mine. 121 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:38,480 Abia țin pasul cu campania, darămite cu el sau cu toți susținătorii. 122 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,760 Avem moderatori pe Discord care fac tot posibilul. 123 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:42,901 I-am văzut cu ochii mei 124 00:05:42,901 --> 00:05:45,840 cum au dat ban cuiva care sugera acțiuni rele împotriva altora. 125 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:48,000 În afară de asta, știu foarte puțin, 126 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,600 și am și mai puțin control asupra a ce face restul internetului. 127 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,600 Mă concentrez pe semnături. 128 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,080 Dacă eu și Thor nu ne mai deranjăm niciodată, 129 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,280 e perfect pentru mine. 130 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:02,780 De asemenea, nu-l consider responsabil pentru ce face fanbase-ul lui. 131 00:06:02,780 --> 00:06:05,360 Nu sunt fan al pedepselor colective. 132 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,467 Și pe de altă parte, 133 00:06:06,467 --> 00:06:09,120 Stop Killing Games e o mișcare populistă. 134 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,520 Asta e definiția haosului. 135 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,040 Pot să o controlez la fel de bine cum controlez vremea. 136 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,520 Ah, și vorbind de abia ținând pasul: 137 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,320 A trebuit să prioritizez emailurile și mesajele 138 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,680 și să le aleg pe cele mai critice pentru campanie. 139 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,920 Deci, mulți dintre voi veți primi răspunsuri întârziate, 140 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,840 dar probabil voi ajunge la majoritatea 141 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:29,200 în cele din urmă. 142 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,520 Okay, ultimul anunț: 143 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,600 Petiția din Regatul Unit a depășit 100.000 de semnături, 144 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,720 și cred că acestea sunt mai legitime, 145 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,820 dar puteți continua să semnați pentru a fi și mai siguri. 146 00:06:41,820 --> 00:06:44,240 Mai multe nu strică. 147 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,640 Deci, ce putem spera de la asta? 148 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,880 Sincer, nu am nicio idee. 149 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:53,200 Pariez că Inițiativa UE va oferi ceva bun dacă trece, 150 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,880 dar Regatul Unit a fost mai mult despre epuizarea tuturor opțiunilor. 151 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,560 O să spun că orice se întâmplă 152 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,320 nu poate fi mai rău decât răspunsul vechi 153 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,340 de la Departamentul pentru Media, Cultură și Sport. 154 00:07:03,340 --> 00:07:06,320 Da, putem sări peste gunoiul ăsta. 155 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,400 E literalmente gunoi reciclat. 156 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,880 Amintiți-vă, am încercat anul trecut, 157 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,900 și ne-au dat un răspuns atât de prost, 158 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:14,800 că a fost respins de Comitetul de Petiții, 159 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,460 și i-au cerut Guvernului să încerce din nou pentru că nu a răspuns la întrebare. 160 00:07:18,460 --> 00:07:20,800 Dar apoi, Parlamentul a fost desființat, 161 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,280 iar când s-a reluat și am relansat petiția, 162 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,800 am primit același răspuns copiat și lipit în cea nouă, 163 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,560 doar puțin rearanjat. 164 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,120 Mă gândesc că poate toate acțiunile din Regatul Unit 165 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,720 au fost blocate de un funcționar încăpățânat din departament. 166 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,240 Acum putem ignora prostiile alea și mergem direct la Parlament. 167 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,480 Adică, nu pot face mai rău decât asta. 168 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,280 Un membru al Parlamentului ar putea strănuta pe petiție, 169 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,200 și tot nu ar fi un răspuns mai prost. 170 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:50,240 Și asta e singurul lucru garantat pe care îl obținem: răspunsuri. 171 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,600 Acum, pentru cei care vor să mai intensifice asta, 172 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,080 mi s-a atras atenția 173 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,960 că există o pagină pentru a afla cine e deputatul vostru 174 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,466 dacă vreți să le scrieți: "Da, ridicați asta în Parlament." 175 00:08:01,466 --> 00:08:03,920 Aș zice că da, ar putea ajuta. 176 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,960 Dar e clar mai mult de muncă decât să vă semnați numele, 177 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,280 așa că îmi țin așteptările sub control. 178 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,666 E un link în descrierea acestui videoclip. 179 00:08:11,666 --> 00:08:13,100 Okay, asta e tot. 180 00:08:13,100 --> 00:08:14,720 Continuați presiunea. 181 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,120 Acum suntem în ceața luptei. 182 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,361 [Tradus de: Daniel]
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Subtitulos por MarcosVLl2 Title: ¡Actualización importante sobre Alto a la Destrucción de los Videojuegos! Description: ¡Varias actualizaciones! Hablo sobre las 1.000.000 firmas, las firmas fantasma, petición del Reino Unido y más Enlace a la Iniciativa Ciudadana Europea: https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home?lg=es Enlace a la petición del Reino Unido: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/702074/ Enlace sobre contactár con los miembros de parlamento del Reino Unido: https://www.parliament.uk/get-involved/contact-an-mp-or-lord/contact-your-mp/ 0:00 surgimiento en la iniciativa europea + firmas fantasma 4:02 noticias sobre Italia y amigos 4:23 moneda payasa 4:44 acosar está mal, m'kayyy 6:15 locura mensajera 6:29 ¡petición del Reino Unido conseguida! #StopKillingGames https://stopkillinggames.com 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,880 Hey, traigo algunas novedades sobre Alto a la destrucción de los videojuegos, 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:05,840 y voy a estar rompiendo contacto visual a menudo, 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,720 ya que mi mente se pone en blanco cuando miro fijamente a una cámara, 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,966 y no quiero memorizarme todo esto. 5 00:00:10,966 --> 00:00:13,600 Okey, las noticias principales: 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,520 La Iniciativa Cuidadana Europea ha llegado al millón de firmas. 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,400 Salvo por que no todavía. 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,240 Esto va a matar a la moral, pero aquí suceden dos cosas. 9 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:26,240 La primera ya sabíamos que iba a pasar. 10 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:29,200 Cada vez que alguien comete un error al firmar la Iniciativa, 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,200 su firma queda invalidada. 12 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,040 Lo que significa que necesitamos todavía más para contrarrestar esos fallos. 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,880 Me recuerda a esos juegos multijugador 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,760 donde ves a alguien que no tiene ni idea de lo que hace, 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,560 tipo, estan disparando a una pared o algo así. 16 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:43,840 Así que, 17 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,520 tenemos que ser capaces de tener en cuenta 18 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,940 a la gente que literalmente no sabe escribir su nombre correctamente. 19 00:00:48,940 --> 00:00:51,120 Eso podría ser mucho. 20 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,967 he escucuado un 10% mínimo, 21 00:00:52,967 --> 00:00:54,734 20% es mejor, 22 00:00:54,734 --> 00:00:57,433 40% debería ser muy seguro. 23 00:00:57,433 --> 00:01:00,880 O lo sería, pero tenemos un segundo problema. 24 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,367 He recibido multiples reportes 25 00:01:02,367 --> 00:01:06,240 de personas que alegan haber falsificado firmas en la web de la Iniciativa. 26 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,240 En primero lugar, quiero decir que esto no es una petición de Change.org. 27 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,240 Esto es un proceso legal. 28 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,360 Falsificar firmas es un crímen. 29 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,066 No hagais esto. 30 00:01:17,066 --> 00:01:20,080 Se van a comprobar más tarde por la Comisión Europea, 31 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,080 y supongo que las falsas serán reportadas a Europol o a Interpol, 32 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,633 y de ahí harán un seguimiento. 33 00:01:25,633 --> 00:01:27,600 Si vienen de America, 34 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,200 la Interpol se le conoce por cooperar muy amenudo con la FBI. 35 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,760 Eso sí, ¿van a perseguir a personas por esto? 36 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,360 No tengo ni idea. 37 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,220 Europa se toma sus procesos políticos muy en serio, 38 00:01:38,220 --> 00:01:40,240 por lo que creo que, cuanto más engaño se detecte, 39 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,840 más se perseguirá a la gente que sea responsable de esto. 40 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,320 De nuevo, no sugiero hacer nada de esto. 41 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:49,766 Parece una tontería por la que arriesgar tiempo en la carcel. 42 00:01:49,766 --> 00:01:51,234 Pero el problema está en... 43 00:01:51,234 --> 00:01:56,080 Ahora estoy completamente a ciégas en cómo pudiera esto afectar a la Iniciativa. 44 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,120 No te preocupes. 45 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,360 Esto no va a invalidar la iniciativa. 46 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,000 Todas las firmas legítimas contarán. 47 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,160 ¿Pero ese número de un millón? 48 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,560 Seh, puede que no sea real. 49 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,760 Creo que tenemos al menos 600–700,000 firmas reales. 50 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,980 A parte de eso, no lo sé. 51 00:02:13,980 --> 00:02:16,000 Igual solo es una o dos personas que lo intentaron, 52 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,160 y no hay nada de lo que preocuparse. 53 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,320 O igual es una botnet muy sofisticada 54 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,800 falsificando cientos de miles de firmas. 55 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,640 No tengo ni idea. 56 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:26,560 De hecho, he notado hace un par de días, 57 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,600 teníamos un gran incremento por el día, tiempo de Europa, 58 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,360 pero decaería mucho por la noche, porque la gente estaría durmiendo. 59 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,080 Ahora, parece que sube incluso por la noche. 60 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,560 Igual todo esto es una ilusión ahora. 61 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,800 Puede que no hayamos ganado nada. 62 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,120 Tengo que dar merito donde es merecido. 63 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,960 He estado queriendo llegar a un márgen seguro y dejar todo esto atrás, 64 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,840 pero ahora tengo que seguir hasta el 31 de Julio, 65 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,640 porque ahora no hay nada que pueda llamar "margen seguro". 66 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:54,960 Y no tengo ni idea de lo que es real. 67 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,240 Para la gente que odia la Iniciativa, me has pillado. 68 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,601 Esto dificulta mucho mas mi vida, 69 00:02:59,601 --> 00:03:01,760 y ahora debo estar en el anzuelo incluso más tiempo. 70 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,280 Voy a estar tán contento para cuando se acabe esta campaña. 71 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,800 De hecho, si eres bueno en análisis de datos, 72 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,100 Diría de comprobar esos primeros días entre el 24 y el 25 de Junio, 73 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:15,840 especialmente cuando MoistCr1TiKaL sacó su vídeo. 74 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,720 Juraría que ví un aumento en 5% de aumento proporcional a sus visualizaciónes. 75 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,367 Por lo que se puede asumir 76 00:03:22,367 --> 00:03:26,160 que grandes visitas en YouTube se traducen a un 5% en firmas reales. 77 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,360 Igual puedes averiguar cuál debería ser nuestro márgen de verdad. 78 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,800 Así que... si, da asco. 79 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,366 Vamos a seguir intentando adiviniarlo 80 00:03:33,366 --> 00:03:36,040 hasta que averiguémos qué sería una cantidad segura. 81 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:36,967 Lo siento si esto no es 82 00:03:36,967 --> 00:03:38,960 una celebración de victoria como te esperabas. 83 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,680 Este es el tipo de victoria tensa y con suspense por detrás, 84 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,100 y puede que hiera la moral de la gente que está firmando. 85 00:03:44,100 --> 00:03:46,501 ¿Sabes como en la 2da Guerra Mundial, los soldados japoneses 86 00:03:46,501 --> 00:03:49,360 tenían soldados atrincherados en un montón de íslas del Pacífico, 87 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,360 salvo que hay algunos que nunca recibieron el mensaje cuando la guerra acabó en 1945, 88 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,200 así que siguieron ahi durante años, asumiendo que la guerra seguía en activo? 89 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,840 Esa es la mentalidad en la que estoy ahora mismo. 90 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,300 Al menos todo acaba en un mes. 91 00:04:02,300 --> 00:04:05,040 Okey, otro anuncio: 92 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,234 hemos recibido avisos de que en algúnos países, 93 00:04:07,234 --> 00:04:09,680 juraría que Italia y Bélgica especialmente, 94 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,120 ocurría que el sistema de identificación digital no funcionaba. 95 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,240 En esos casos, sugiero usar el método manual, 96 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,520 con instrucciónes en StopKillingGames.com, 97 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,120 o podrías intentar volver en un par de días y comprobar si funciona. 98 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,400 Otro artículo de noticia, 99 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,280 Me han contado que alguien lanzó una criptomoneda 100 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:30,080 basada en Alto a la destrucción de los videojuegos. 101 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,880 La línea de tiempo idiotesca, como he dicho. 102 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,480 Para que todos lo tengan claro, eso no tenía náda que ver con nosotros. 103 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,120 No tengo ni idea siquiera de quien la querría. 104 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,080 Estoy seguro de que es una estafa. 105 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,166 Pues, sí, eso es lo que hay. 106 00:04:44,166 --> 00:04:46,160 Algo que también quiero cubrir rápidamente es que 107 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,320 he visto algunas denuncias de gente acosando a PirateSoftware. 108 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,380 Creo que no hay ni que decirlo, pero por si acaso, 109 00:04:53,380 --> 00:04:57,600 no, por supuesto que no apoyamos acosar por nada. 110 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,467 Ya lo dije en mi vídeo de respuesta, 111 00:04:59,467 --> 00:05:02,540 No le deseé ningún mal, y lo digo en serio. 112 00:05:02,540 --> 00:05:04,080 ¿Sábes porqué? 113 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,000 Cuando la vida de la gente es mejor, 114 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,520 suelen estar menos inclinados a formular algún tipo de venganza, 115 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,120 y yo ya tengo la mano en el fuego como para estar añadiendo más leña. 116 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,300 Osea, yo tambien tengo algunos locos a por mí, seguro. 117 00:05:16,300 --> 00:05:18,960 Aunque creo que no serán tantos en mi caso. 118 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,800 También señalé la última vez, 119 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,560 cualquier daño que Thor le hiciera a la campaña ha sido neutralizado. 120 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,080 Así que, lo que sea que pase, ya no es culpa suya. 121 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,840 También diré, no sé de qué se está encargando el resto tampoco. 122 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:33,520 Esto es mucho más grande que yo. 123 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:38,480 Apenas le sigo el ritmo a la campaña, sin siquiera contar con él o con los apoyos. 124 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,760 Tenemos moderadores en nuestro Discord que lo hacen lo mejor que pueden. 125 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,840 Literalmente les he visto vetar a alguien por sugerir una mala acción contra otro. 126 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:48,000 Mas allá de eso, no sé nada, 127 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,600 y tengo todavía menos control sobre lo que sucede en internet. 128 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,600 Estoy a tope con las firmas. 129 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,080 Si Thor y yo no nos volvemos a molestar otra vez. 130 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,280 pues por mi perfecto. 131 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:02,780 Tampoco lo culpo por nada de lo que pueda haber hecho sus fans. 132 00:06:02,780 --> 00:06:05,360 No soy partidario del castigo colectivo. 133 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,467 Y, por el contrario, 134 00:06:06,467 --> 00:06:09,120 Alto a la destrucción de los videojuegos es un movimiento popular. 135 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,520 Es la misma definición de "un lío". 136 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,040 Tengo la misma capacidad de controlar eso que de controlar el tiempo. 137 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,520 Oh, y hablando de apenas estar al tanto: 138 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,320 He intentado estar encima de los correos y los mensajes 139 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,680 y priorizar los mas críticos para la campaña 140 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,920 Así que muchos van a recibir una respuesta con retraso, 141 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,840 pero debería ser capaz 142 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:29,200 despues de todo. 143 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,520 Okey, anuncio final: 144 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,600 La petición del Reino Unido ha llegado a las 100.000 firmas, 145 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,720 y sospecho que estas sean más legítimas 146 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,820 aunque se puede todavía firmarla para tener un márgen de seguridad. 147 00:06:41,820 --> 00:06:44,240 Más firmas no hacen daño. 148 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,640 Así que, ¿Qué debemos esperar de esto? 149 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,880 Sinceramente, no tengo ni idea. 150 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:49,967 Apostaría lo que fuera 151 00:06:49,967 --> 00:06:53,200 en que la Iniciativa Europea va a darnos algo bueno si consigue pasar, 152 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,880 pero la del Reino Unido es más por agotar todas nuestras opciones. 153 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,320 Diré que lo que pase con esto no puede ser peor que la última respuesta que tuvimos 154 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,340 del Departamento de Medios, Cultura y Deportes. 155 00:07:03,340 --> 00:07:06,320 Si, vamos a poder saltar sobre esta basura. 156 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,400 Esto ya es basura reciclada. 157 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,780 ¿Recuerdan?, intentamos lanzar esto el año pasado, 158 00:07:10,780 --> 00:07:12,900 y nos dieron una respuesta tán absolutamente pésima, 159 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:14,833 que fué rechazada por el Comité de Peticiones, 160 00:07:14,833 --> 00:07:16,968 y le dijeron al Gobierno que lo intentaran de nuevo ya 161 00:07:16,968 --> 00:07:18,460 que no respondían a la pregunta. 162 00:07:18,460 --> 00:07:20,800 Pero el Parlamento de disolvió, 163 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,280 por lo que volvimos y relanzamos el movimiento, 164 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,800 y nos hicieron un copia-pega de la respuesta antígua en la nueva, 165 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,560 simplemente un poco reordenada. 166 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,120 Parte de mí sospecha que toda la acción en el Reino Unido 167 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,720 ha estado siendo frenada por un burócrata gruñón en el departamento. 168 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,240 Pues ahora podemos ignorar esa mierda y ir directamente al Parlamento. 169 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,480 Es que, no lo pueden hacer peor que eso. 170 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,280 Un miembro del Parlamento podría estornudar en la petición, 171 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,200 y eso no sería una respuesta peor. 172 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:50,240 Eso es lo único que tenemos garantizados sacar de aquí, respuestas. 173 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,600 Ahora, para ustedes que quieren exprimirla todavía más, 174 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,080 he sidi informado que 175 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,960 hay una página para averiguar cual es tu miembro del Parlamento 176 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,466 sí quieres escribirles y decirles, "Si, llevalo al Parlamento." 177 00:08:01,466 --> 00:08:03,920 Yo diría que eso podría ayudar. 178 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,960 Pero eso es muchísimo más trabajo que firmar con tu nombre, 179 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,280 así que mantengo mis espectativas a ralla. 180 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,666 Hay un enlace en la descripción de este vídeo. 181 00:08:11,666 --> 00:08:13,100 Okey, eso es todo. 182 00:08:13,100 --> 00:08:14,720 Seguir empujando. 183 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,120 Ahora estamos en la sombra. 184 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,361 [Subtitulos por MarcosVLl2]
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On behalf of translator Cayenne. I still can't upload SRTs. 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,080 Tja, jag har några saker att meddela om Stop Killing Games, 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,840 och jag kommer att titta bort en hel del, 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,720 för jag blir blank i sinnet när jag tittar in i kameran, 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,966 och jag vill inte memorera det här. 5 00:00:10,966 --> 00:00:13,600 Okej, senaste nytt: 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,520 EU-medborgarinitiativet har passerat en miljon underskrifter. 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,400 Förutom att det inte har det. 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,240 Det här kommer ta kål på moralen, men det är två saker som pågår här. 9 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:26,240 Den första visste vi var på väg. 10 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:29,200 Varje gång någon gör ett misstag när hen skriver under initiativet 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,800 blir dennes underskrift ogiltig. 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,701 Så det betyder att vi behöver fler underskrifter 13 00:00:32,701 --> 00:00:35,040 för att kompensera för alla misstag. 14 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,880 Det påminner mig lite om multiplayerspel 15 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,760 när du ser någon som inte har någon aning om vad de håller på med, 16 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,560 och typ attackerar en vägg eller nåt. 17 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:43,840 Så i det här fallet 18 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,520 behöver vi kompensera för när folk 19 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,940 inte ens kan stava sitt namn ordentligt. 20 00:00:48,940 --> 00:00:51,120 Det kan komma att bli mycket. 21 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,967 Jag har hört 10 % som minimum, 22 00:00:52,967 --> 00:00:54,734 20 % är bättre, 23 00:00:54,734 --> 00:00:57,433 40 % torde vara väldigt säkert. 24 00:00:57,433 --> 00:01:00,880 Eller, det skulle vara det, men vi har ett till problem. 25 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,367 Jag har fått flera rapporter om 26 00:01:02,367 --> 00:01:06,240 folk som påstår sig fejka underskrifter för medborgarinitiativet. 27 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,240 Först och främst vill jag säga att det här är ingen Change.org-insamling. 28 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,240 Det här är en statlig process. 29 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,360 Att fejka underskrifter till sånt är ett brott. 30 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,066 Gör det inte är ni snälla. 31 00:01:17,066 --> 00:01:19,433 De kommer bli kollade senare av EU-kommissionen 32 00:01:19,433 --> 00:01:21,601 och min gissning är att de fejkade underskrifterna 33 00:01:21,601 --> 00:01:25,633 skickas till Europol eller Interpol och de kommer följa upp på det här. 34 00:01:25,633 --> 00:01:27,600 Om de kommer från USA... 35 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,200 Interpol är kända för att samarbeta mycket med FBI. 36 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,760 Kommer de att åtala folk för det här? 37 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,360 Jag har ingen aning. 38 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,320 Europa tar sina politiska processer på rätt stort allvar, 39 00:01:38,320 --> 00:01:40,240 så jag skulle tro att ju mer det fejkas, 40 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,840 desto mer skulle de skicka rättsväsendet på folk som gör så här. 41 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,320 Återigen, jag skulle inte rekommendera att man gör sånt. 42 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:49,766 Det verkar som en dålig sak att riskera fängelsetid för. 43 00:01:49,766 --> 00:01:51,234 Men problemet här är 44 00:01:51,234 --> 00:01:56,080 att jag nu är i en fullständig dimma över hur mycket det här påverkar initiativet. 45 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,120 Men oroa er inte, 46 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,360 Inget av det här kommer ogiltigförklara initiativet. 47 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,000 Alla giltiga underskrifter räknas fortfarande. 48 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,160 Men den där miljonen? 49 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,560 Ja, den kanske inte stämmer. 50 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,760 Jag tror att vi har åtminstone 600–700 000 riktiga underskrifter. 51 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,566 Bortom det, vet jag inte. 52 00:02:13,566 --> 00:02:16,000 Kanske det bara är en eller två personer som försökte, 53 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,160 och det här inte är något att oroa sig för. 54 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,320 Eller så finns det ett sofistikerat bot-nätverk 55 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,800 som fejkar hundratusentals underskrifter. 56 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,640 Jag har ingen aning. 57 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:26,560 Jag märkte faktiskt för några dagar sen 58 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,600 att vi fick en stor ökning under dagen, europeisk tid, 59 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,360 men att det sen minskade en hel del på natten, för att folk gick och lade sig. 60 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,080 Nu verkar det som att det ökar en hel del genom natten. 61 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,560 Så kanske det mesta av det här är en illusion nu. 62 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,800 Vi kanske inte har gjort några framsteg. 63 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,120 Äras den som äras bör. 64 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,960 Jag såg fram emot att nå en säker marginal och lägga det här bakom mig, 65 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,840 Men nu antar jag att jag måste hålla ångan uppe tills den 31 juli 66 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,640 eftersom det nu inte finns någon sort säkerhetsmarginal. 67 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:54,960 Jag har ingen aning om vad som är sant nu. 68 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,240 Så, för folk som hatar initiativet, ni fick mig. 69 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,760 Det här gör mit liv svårare, och nu är jag bunden till det här ännu längre. 70 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,280 Jag kommer bli så glad när den här kampanjen tar slut. 71 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,800 Jag kom på, om du är riktigt bra på att analysera data, 72 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,100 prova då att kolla på de första dagarna kring 24 och 25 juni, 73 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:15,840 speciellt då MoistCr1TiKaL släppte sin video. 74 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,001 Jag kommer ihåg att jag såg en cirka 5 % -ökning av underskrifter 75 00:03:19,001 --> 00:03:20,720 i proportion till hans visningar. 76 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,334 Så, vi kan nog anta 77 00:03:22,334 --> 00:03:26,160 att många YouTube-visningar korrelerar med 5 % riktiga underskrifter. 78 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,360 Kanske kan du räkna ut vad vår riktiga säkerhetsmarginal behöver vara. 79 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,000 Så, ja, det suger. 80 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,367 Vi kommer bara fortsätta spekulera 81 00:03:33,367 --> 00:03:36,240 om vi inte kan komma på vad de säkra nivåerna är. 82 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,960 Ledsen att det här inte är ett stort segerfirande. 83 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,680 Det här är bara rätt nervöst och spänt istället, 84 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,400 och kommer antagligen skada moralen för folk som skriver under. 85 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,760 Ni vet, hur japanerna under 86 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,360 andra världskriget hade soldater placerade på ett gäng Stillahavsöar, 87 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,360 men några av dem aldrig fick veta när kriget tog slut 1945 88 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,200 så de bara stannade där i åratal och antog att kriget fortfarande pågick? 89 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,840 Det är typ så jag känner nu, mentalt. 90 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,300 Nåja, om en månad är allt över i alla fall. 91 00:04:02,300 --> 00:04:05,040 Okej, en annan sak att meddela: 92 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,134 Vi har fått rapporter om att några länders, 93 00:04:07,134 --> 00:04:09,680 jag tror Italien och Belgien särskilt, 94 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,120 ID-system inte alltid funkat. 95 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,240 I de fallen, skulle jag säga, använd antingen den manuella metoden, 96 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,520 som vi har instruktioner för på StopKillingGames.com, 97 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,120 eller så kan du komma tillbaka inom ett par dagar och se om det funkar då. 98 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,400 En annan notis, 99 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,280 jag har fått veta att någon lanserat en kryptovaluta 100 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:30,080 baserad på Stop Killing Games. 101 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,880 Dummaste tidslinjen gott folk. 102 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,480 Bara så att alla vet det, det hade ingenting med oss att göra. 103 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,120 Jag har ingen aning om vem som ens skulle vilja ha nåt sånt. 104 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,080 Jag är säker på att det är ett bedrägeri. 105 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,166 Så, japp, det var allt. 106 00:04:44,166 --> 00:04:46,160 Nånting annat att ta upp snabbt 107 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,320 är att jag hört vid några tillfällen att folk trakasserar Pirate Software. 108 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,380 Jag känner att det här är självklart, men om det inte är det: 109 00:04:53,380 --> 00:04:57,600 nej, självklart står vi inte bakom att man trakasserar honom. 110 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,467 Alltså, jag sa i min svarsvideo 111 00:04:59,467 --> 00:05:02,540 att jag inte önskade honom något illa, och jag menade det. 112 00:05:02,540 --> 00:05:04,080 Vet ni varför? 113 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,000 När folks liv är bättre, 114 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,520 så tenderar de att vara mindre benägna att utöva någon sorts hämnd, 115 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,120 och jag får redan ta smällen av det utan att bidra till det hela. 116 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,300 Jag menar, jag utsätts av en del tokskallar jag med. 117 00:05:16,300 --> 00:05:18,960 Jag kan dock inte tro att de är lika många. 118 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,800 Jag påpekade också förra gången 119 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,560 att om Thor gjort någon skada gentemot kampanjen så har den neutraliserats. 120 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,080 Så vad som än händer är inte hans fel längre. 121 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,840 Jag vill också säga, att jag inte har någon koll på vad fan alla sysslar med. 122 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:33,520 Det här är mycket större än bara mig. 123 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,701 Jag kan knappt hålla mig uppdaterad på kampanjen, 124 00:05:35,701 --> 00:05:38,480 än mindre honom eller alla våra stödjare. 125 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,760 Vi har dock moderatorer i vår Discord som gör sitt bästa. 126 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:42,934 Jag har bokstavligen sett dem 127 00:05:42,934 --> 00:05:45,840 banna någon som föreslog dåliga handlingar gentemot andra. 128 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:48,000 Förutom det vet jag väldigt lite 129 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,600 och jag har till och med mindre kontroll över vad resten av internet gör. 130 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,600 Jag fokuserar på underskrifterna. 131 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,080 Jag är helt okej med om Thor och jag 132 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,280 aldrig stör varandra igen. 133 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:02,780 Jag håller honom inte heller ansvarig för något som hans fans gör. 134 00:06:02,780 --> 00:06:05,360 Jag är inte ett fan av kollektiv bestraffning. 135 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,467 Å andra sidan 136 00:06:06,467 --> 00:06:09,120 är Stop Killing Games en folklig rörelse. 137 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,520 De är själva definitionen av vad rörigt heter. 138 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,040 Jag kan styra den lika väl som jag styr över vädret. 139 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,520 Åh, och när man talar om att knappt hänga med: 140 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,320 Jag har behövt försöka triagera e-post och meddelanden 141 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,680 och prioritera de som är viktigast för kampanjen. 142 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,920 Så många av er kommer att få ett sent svar, 143 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,840 men jag torde mestadels komma ikapp 144 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:29,200 till slut. 145 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,133 Okej, den sista utannonseringen: 146 00:06:31,133 --> 00:06:32,967 Namninsamlingen till den brittiska regeringen 147 00:06:32,967 --> 00:06:35,600 har passerat 100 000 underskrifter 148 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,720 och jag misstänker att de underskrifterna är mer korrekta, 149 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,820 men ni kan fortsätta skriva under den också för säkerhetsmarginalens skull. 150 00:06:41,820 --> 00:06:44,240 Mer skadar inte någon. 151 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,640 Så, vad torde vi förvänta oss av det här? 152 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,880 Jag har ärligt talat ingen aning. 153 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,967 Jag skulle satsa pengar på att EU-initiativet 154 00:06:50,967 --> 00:06:53,200 levererar något bra om det går igenom, 155 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,880 men Storbritannien har handlat mer om att uttömma alla möjligheter. 156 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,560 Jag vill påstå att vad som än händer 157 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,320 kan inte vara värre än det gamla svaret 158 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,340 från Department for Culture, Media and Sport. 159 00:07:03,340 --> 00:07:06,320 Ja, vi behöver komma förbi det här skräpet. 160 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,400 Det här är verkligen återanvänt skräp. 161 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,880 Kom ihåg, vi försökte få igång det här förra året 162 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,900 och de gav oss ett svar som var så dåligt 163 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:14,800 att det avslogs av nämnden för namninsamlingar 164 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,460 och sa till regeringen att försöka igen eftersom det här inte besvarade frågan. 165 00:07:18,460 --> 00:07:20,800 Men då upplöstes parlamentet, 166 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,280 och när den kom tillbaka och vi återlanserade 167 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,800 fick vi samma svar kopierat och inklistrat i det nya, 168 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,560 bara lite runtflyttat. 169 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,120 En sida av mig misstänker att all aktivitet i Storbritannien 170 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,720 har blockerats av en enda sur byråkrat i departementet. 171 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,240 Nåja, nu kan vi strunta i all den där skiten och gå direkt till parlamentet. 172 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,480 Jag menar, de kan inte åstadkomma värre än så här. 173 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,280 En parlamentsledamot skulle kunna nysa på namninsamlingen 174 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,200 och det skulle inte vara ett värre svar. 175 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:50,240 Och det är den enda garanterade saken som vi kommer få ut av det här, nämligen svar. 176 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,600 För er som vill ta det här längre 177 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,080 så har jag fått veta 178 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,960 att det finns en sida där man kan hitta ens parlamentsledamot 179 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,466 om du vill kontakta dem och säga "ja, ta upp det här i parlamentet." 180 00:08:01,466 --> 00:08:03,920 Ja, jag skulle säga att det kan hjälpa. 181 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,960 Men det är absolut mer jobb än att skriva under med sitt namn, 182 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,280 så jag släpper på förväntingarna. 183 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,666 Det finns en länk i videobeskrivningen. 184 00:08:11,666 --> 00:08:13,100 Okej, det var allt. 185 00:08:13,100 --> 00:08:14,720 Fortsätt kämpa på. 186 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,120 Vi är i dimman nu. 187 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,361 [Översatt av Cayenne] Title: Stop uppdatering om "Stop Killing Games"-kampanjen! Descriptions: Flera uppdateringar! Snack om de 1 000 000 namnunderskrifterna, spökunderskrifterna, den brittiska namninsamlingen + mer Länk till det EU-medborgarinitiativet: https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home?lg=sv Länk till den brittiska namninsamlingen till regeringen: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/702074/ Länk om att kontakta brittiska parlamentsledamöter: https://www.parliament.uk/get-involved/contact-an-mp-or-lord/contact-your-mp/ 0:00 EU-initiativet exploderar + spökunderskrifter 4:02 Meddelande om Italien med vänner 4:23 Clownpengar 4:44 Trakasserier är inte bra, m'kay? 6:15 Meddelanden och galenskap 6:29 Lyckad brittisk namninsamling! #StopKillingGames http://stopkillinggames.com/
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Greek subs for the SKG update video! Μεγάλη ενημέρωση για το Stop Killing Games! Μερικές εξελίξεις! Συζήτηση για τις 1,000,000 υπογραφές, τις υπογραφές "φαντάσματα", η Πρωτοβουλία του Η.Β., κ.α. Σύνδεσμος Ευρωπαϊκής Πρωτοβουλίας Πολιτών (Ε.Π.Π.): http://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home?lg=el Σύνδεσμος Πρωτοβουλίας του Η.Β.: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/702074 Σύνδεσμος για την επικοινωνία με βουλευτές του Η.Β.: https://www.parliament.uk/get-involved/contact-an-mp-or-lord/contact-your-mp/ 0:00 η άνοδος της Ε.Π.Π. + οι υπογραφές φαντάσματα 4:02 ανακοίνωση για την Ιταλία και άλλους φίλους 4:23 νόμισμα κλόουν 4:44 η παρενόχληση βλάπτει σοβαρά 6:15 τρέλα με το ηλεκτρονικό ταχυδρομείο 6:29 η Πρωτοβουλία του Η.Β. έφτασε τον στόχο της #StopKillingGames https://stopkillinggames.com 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,080 Γειά σας, έχω κάποιες ανακοινώσεις σχετικά με το Stop Killing Games, 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,840 το βλέμμα μου θα απομακρύνεται αρκετά από την κάμερα, 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,720 γιατί το μυαλό μου τείνει να σταματάει όταν την κοιτάζω για αρκετό χρόνο, 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,966 και για αυτόν τον λόγο δεν θα ήθελα να αποστηθίσω ότι σας ανακοινώσω. 5 00:00:10,966 --> 00:00:13,600 Ωραία, ορίστε τα έκτακτα νέα: 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,520 Η Ευρπαϊκη Πρωτοβουλία Πολιτών ξεπέρασε ένα εκατομμύριο υπγραφές. 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,400 Μόνο που αυτό δεν ισχύει ακριβώς. 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,240 Αυτό που θα σας πώ ίσως να σας ρίξει το ηθικό, αλλά εδώ συμβαίνουν δύο πράγματα. 9 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:26,240 Το πρώτο το γνωρίζαμε από πρίν. 10 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:29,200 Κάθε φορά που κάποιος/α κάνει λάθος όταν υπογράφει την Πρωτοβουλία, 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,200 η υπογραφή του/ης ακυρώνεται. 12 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,040 Αυτό σημαίνει ότι χρειαζόμαστε παραπάνω υπογραφές για να καλύψουμε τα όποια λάθη. 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,880 Μου θυμίζει κάποια multiplayer παιχνίδια 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,760 όταν βλέπεις κάποιους που δεν έχουν ιδέα το τί κάνουν, 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,560 όπως να επιτίθονται σε έναν τοίχο ή κάτι παρόμοιο. 16 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:43,840 Άρα σε αυτήν την περίπτωση, 17 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,520 θα πρέπει να καλύψουμε τα όποια μπόσικα των ατόμων 18 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,940 που κυριολεκτικά δεν μπορούν να γράψουν το όνομά τους σωστά. 19 00:00:48,940 --> 00:00:51,120 Οι παραπάνω υπογραφές μπορεί να είναι αρκετές. 20 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,967 Έχω ακούσει το λιγότερο 10%, 21 00:00:52,967 --> 00:00:54,734 20% είναι κάπως καλύτερα, 22 00:00:54,734 --> 00:00:57,433 με 40% όμως μπορεί να είμαστε ασφαλείς. 23 00:00:57,433 --> 00:01:00,880 Αλλά ύπάρχει ένα δεύτερο πρόβλημα. 24 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,367 Έχω λάβει μερικές αναφορές 25 00:01:02,367 --> 00:01:06,240 από άτομα που υποστηρίζουν ότι έχουν υπογράψει ψευδώς στον ιστότοπο της Πρωτοβουλίας. 26 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,240 Πρώτον, θα ήθελα να πώ ότι αυτή η πρωτοβουλία δεν είναι μία απλή αίτηση change.org αλλά, 27 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,240 μία επίσημη κυβερνητική διαδικασία. 28 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,360 Ψευδείς υπογραφές στην διαδικασία αυτή θεωρείται έγκλημα. 29 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,066 Σας παρακαλώ μην το κάνετε αυτό. 30 00:01:17,066 --> 00:01:20,080 Οι υπογραφές θα ελεγθούν πιο μετά από την Ευρωπαϊκη Επιτροπή, 31 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,080 και υποψιάζομαι ότι αυτές που είναι ψευδείς θα προωθηθούν στην Europol ή στην Interpol, 32 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,633 για περαιτέρω έρευνες. 33 00:01:25,633 --> 00:01:27,600 Εάν οι υπογραφές είναι από την Αμερική, 34 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,200 είναι ευρέως γνωστό ότι η Interpol συνεργάζεται με το FBI. 35 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,760 Θα ασκηθούν ποινικές διώξεις? 36 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,360 Δεν έχω ιδέα. 37 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,320 Η Ευρώπη παίρνει πολύ στα σοβαρά τις πολιτικές της διαδικασίες, 38 00:01:38,320 --> 00:01:40,240 για αυτό πιστεύω ότι όσες περισσότερες υπογραφές είναι ψευδείς, 39 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,840 οι πιθανότητες να στείλουν την αστυνομία στα άτομα που το πράττουν αυτό. 40 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,320 Ξανά, δεν σας το συνηστώ να το κάνετε αυτό. 41 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:49,766 Φαίνεται κάτι εντελώς κακό να ρισκάρετε να πάτε φυλακή για αυτό. 42 00:01:49,766 --> 00:01:51,234 Αλλά το πρόβλημα εδώ είναι 43 00:01:51,234 --> 00:01:56,080 ότι δεν γνωρίζω καθόλου πως αυτό θα επιρρεάσει την πρωτοβουλία. 44 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,120 Αλλά μην ανησυχείτε. 45 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,360 Τίποτα από όλα αυτά θα ακυρώσει την Πρωτοβουλία. 46 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,000 Όλες οι νόμιμες υπογραφές θα μετρήσουν κανονικά. 47 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,160 Αλλά αυτό το 1 εκατομμύριο? 48 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,560 Ναί, μπορεί να μην είναι πραγματικό. 49 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,760 Πιστεύω ότι έχουμε τουλάχιστον 600-700,000 νόμιμες υπογραφές. 50 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,080 Πέρα από αυτές δεν ξέρω. 51 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,000 Ίσως μόνο ένα ή δύο άτομα να το δοκιμάσανε 52 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,160 και τελικά να μην πρέπει να ανησυχούμε. 53 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,320 Ή μπορεί να είναι ένα εξελιγμένο botnet 54 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,800 που καταθέτει εκατοντάδες χιλιάδες υπογραφές. 55 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,640 Δεν έχω την παραμικρή ιδέα. 56 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:26,560 Να πώ την αλήθεια, παρατήρησα κάποιες μέρες πριν, 57 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,600 ότι λαμβάναμε αρκετές υπογραφές κατα την διάρκεια της ημέρας, Ευρπαϊκές ώρες, 58 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,360 αλλά μετά έπεφταν αρκετά κατά την νύχτα γιατί ο κόσμος πήγαινε για ύπνο. 59 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,080 Τώρα όμως φαίνεται σαν να μπαίνουν πολλές υπογραφές κατά την διάρκεια της νύχτας. 60 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,560 Μπορεί να είναι όλα μία οφθαλμαπάτη. 61 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,800 Μπορεί να μην έχουμε κερδίσει τίποτα. 62 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,120 Πρέπει να δώσω επαίνους εκεί που πρέπει. 63 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,960 Ανυπομονούσα να φτάσουμε σε ένα ασφαλές περιθώριο και να αφήσω αυτό πίσω μου, 64 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,840 αλλά τώρα μάλλον πρέπει να το συνεχίσω μέχρι 31 Ιουλίου, 65 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,640 γιατί δεν υπάρχει κάτι που να είναι ασφαλές περιθώριο. 66 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:54,960 Δεν ξέρω πια τι είναι πραγματικότητα και τι όχι. 67 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,240 Άρα για αυτούς που απεχθάνονται αυτήν την Πρωτοβουλία, με πιάσατε. 68 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,760 Αυτό κάνει την ζωή μου πιο δύσκολη, και τώρα είμαι στην τσίτα περισσότερο. 69 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,280 Θα είμαι τόσο ευτυχής για αυτή την Πρωτοβουλία να ολοκληρωθεί. 70 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,800 Βασικά, εάν είστε καλοί στην ανάλυση δεδομένων, 71 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,100 θα έλεγα να προσπαθήσετε να δείτε τις πρώτες δυό μέρες περίπου 24 και 25 Ιουνίου, 72 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:15,840 ειδικά όταν ο MoistCr1TiKaL ανέβασε το βίντεό του. 73 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,720 Θυμάμαι ότι έβλεπα μία αύξηση υπογραφών 5% αναλογικά με τον αριθμό των προβολών του. 74 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:26,160 Άρα θα έλεγα ότι είναι αρκετά ασφαλές ότι κάθε μεγάλο YouTube βίντεο μεταφράζεται σε 5% πραγματικές υπογραφές. 75 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,360 Ισώς να μπορείτε εσείς να βρείτε ποιο πρέπει να είναι το πραγματικό περιθώριο. 76 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,000 Άρα ναί, αυτό είναι χάλια. 77 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,240 Θα συνεχίσουμε να το παλεύουμε μέχρι να καταλάβουμε ποιά είναι τα ασφαλή νούμερα. 78 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,960 Συγνώμη που αυτό το βίντεο δεν είναι μία μεγάλη γιορτή. 79 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,680 Αυτό είναι κάπως αγωνιώδες και έντονο, 80 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,400 και μπορεί να κάμψει το ηθικό των ατόμων που θα ήθελαν να υπογράψουν. 81 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,760 Ξέρετε όπως στον 2ο Παγκόσμιο Πόλεμο, 82 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,360 οι Ιάπωνες είχαν στρατιώτες παραταγμένους σε αρκετά νησιά του Ειρηνικού, 83 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,360 και όπου κάποιοι από αυτούς δεν έλαβαν ποτέ την πληροφορία ότι ο πόλεμος τελείωσε το 1945, 84 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,200 και κάθησαν εκεί για χρόνια νομίζοντας ότι ο πόλεμος δεν είχε τελειώσει? 85 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,840 Έτσι είμαι κάπως και έγω τώρα ψυχικά. 86 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,300 Τουλάχιστον όλα τελειώνουν σε ένα μήνα. 87 00:04:02,300 --> 00:04:05,040 Οκ, μία ακόμα ανακοίνωση: 88 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,680 Λάβαμε την πληροφορία ότι σε κάποιες χώρες, νομίζω Ιταλία και Βέλγιο, 89 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,120 το ψηφιακό σύστημα eID δεν δούλευε. 90 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,240 Σε αυτές τις περιπτώσεις θα έλεγα είτε να χρησιμοποιήσετε το χειροκίνητο σύστημα, 91 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,520 για το οποίο έχουμε οδηγίες στο StopKillingGames.com, 92 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,120 ή θα μπορούσατε να ξαναπροσπαθήσετε σε λίγες μέρες και να δείτε αν δουλεύει. 93 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,400 Άλλα νέα, 94 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,280 Άκουσα αναφορές ότι κάποιος λανσάρισε ένα κρυπτονόμισμα 95 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:30,080 βασισμένο στο Stop Killing Games. 96 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,880 Ο χειρότερος χρόνος παιδιά. 97 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,480 Για να το ξεκαθαρίσω, αυτό δεν έχει καμμία σχέση με εμάς. 98 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,120 Δεν έχω ίδεα ποίος θα ήθελε κάτι τέτοιο κιόλας. 99 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,080 Είμαι σίγουρος ότι αυτό είναι απάτη. 100 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,166 Άρα ναι, αυτά είναι όλα για αυτό το νέο. 101 00:04:44,166 --> 00:04:46,160 Κάτι άλλο να καλύψουμε στα γρήγορα, 102 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,320 Έχω ακούσει αναφορές ότι κάποια άτομα παρενοχλούν τον Pirate Software. 103 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,380 Εξυπακούεται ότι, 104 00:04:53,380 --> 00:04:57,600 όχι, βεβαίως και δεν συμφωνώ με όποιον τον παρενοχλούν. 105 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,467 Όπως είπα στο απαντητικό μου βίντεο ότι, 106 00:04:59,467 --> 00:05:02,540 Δεν του ευχήθηκα ποτέ κανένα κακό και το εννοώ αυτό. 107 00:05:02,540 --> 00:05:04,080 Και ξέρετε γιατί; 108 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,000 Γιατί όταν η ζωή των ανθρώπων είναι καλύτερη, 109 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,520 τείνουν λιγότερο να αναζητούν κάποιο είδος εκδίκησης, 110 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,120 και νομίζω ότι υπάρχει αρκετή φωτιά εδώ χώρις να υπάρχει λόγος. 111 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,300 Εννοώ, και εγώ λαμβάνω μυνήματα από μερικούς τρελούς. 112 00:05:16,300 --> 00:05:18,960 Αλλά πιστεύω ότι δεν είναι τόσοι. 113 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,800 Είπα και την προηγούμενη φορά, 114 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,560 όποια ζημιά έκανε ο Thor στην καμπάνια αυτή τώρα έχει εξουδετερωθεί. 115 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,080 Άρα ότι και να γίνει από εδώ και πέρα δεν είναι ευθύνη δική του. 116 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,840 Θα πω κιόλας ότι δεν ξέρω τι στο καλό συμβαίνει σε όλους ανά πάσα ώρα και στιγμή. 117 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:33,520 Αυτό είναι μεγαλύτερο από εμένα. 118 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:38,480 Με το ζόρι προλαβαίνω να ασχολούμαι με την καμπάνια, και που να ήταν με αυτόν ή με τους υποστηρικτές του. 119 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,760 Έχουμε συντονιστές στο Discord που προσπαθούν για το καλύτερο. 120 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,840 Έχω δεί να ρίχνουν ban σε χρήστη που πρότεινε χρήση βίας ενάντια κάποιων άλλων. 121 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:48,000 Πέρα από αυτά, γνωρίζω πολύ λίγα, 122 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,600 και έχω λιγότερο έλεγχο στο τι κάνει το υπόλοιπο ίντερνετ. 123 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,600 Αυτή την στιγμή είμαι συγκεντρωμένος στις υπογραφές. 124 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,080 Εάν ο Thor και εγώ δεν απασχολήσουμε πια ο ένας τον άλλον, 125 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,280 αυτό είναι εντάξει για μένα. 126 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:02,780 Επίσης δεν τον θεωρώ υπεύθυνο για το οτιδήποτε πράττουν οι θαυμαστές του. 127 00:06:02,780 --> 00:06:05,360 Δεν είμαι φάν συλλογικής τιμωρίας. 128 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,467 Απεναντίας, 129 00:06:06,467 --> 00:06:09,120 το Stop Killing Games είναι ένα λαϊκό κίνημα. 130 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,520 Αυτό είναι ο ορισμός του χαμού. 131 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,040 Μπορώ να το ελέγξω όπως μπορώ να ελέγξω τον καιρό. 132 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,520 Α, και όπως σας είπα που με το ζόρι ανταπεξέρχομαι: 133 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,320 Τώρα τελευταία κάνω διαλογή στα μυνήματα και emails 134 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,680 για να δώσω προτεραιότητα σε αυτά που είναι πιό κρίσιμα για την καμπάνια. 135 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,920 Άρα αρκετοί από εσάς θα πάρετε μία καθυστερημένη απάντηση, 136 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,840 αλλά θα τα προλάβω όλα 137 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:29,200 ...κάποια στιγμή. 138 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,520 Οκ, η τελευταία ανακοίνωση: 139 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,600 Η Πρωτοβουλία του Ηνωμένου Βασιλείου ξεπέρασε τις 100,000 υπογραφές, 140 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,720 και υποπτεύομαι ότι αυτές οι υπογραφές είναι πιο αληθείς, 141 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,820 αν και μπορείτε να συνεχίσετε να υπογράφετε για να έχουμε ένα περιθώριο ασφαλείας. 142 00:06:41,820 --> 00:06:44,240 Περισσότερες υπογραφές δεν βλάπτουν. 143 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,640 Άρα τι θα πρέπει να περιμένουμε από αυτό; 144 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,880 Πραγματικά δεν έχω ιδέα. 145 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:53,200 Θα στοιχιμάτιζα χρήματα στην Ευρωπαϊκη Πρωτοβουλία να απέδιδε κάτι εάν περάσει, 146 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,880 αλλά η πρωτοβουλία του Η.Β. είναι περισσότερο το να εξαντλήσουμε όλες τις επιλογές. 147 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,560 Θα έλεγα ότι και να γίνει 148 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,320 δεν μπορεί να είναι χειρότερ από την προηγούμενη απάντηση 149 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,340 που λάβαμε από το Τμήμα Μέσων, Παραδόσεων και Αθλητισμού. 150 00:07:03,340 --> 00:07:06,320 Ναί, με αυτό θα ξεπεράσουμε αυτά τα σκουπίδια. 151 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,400 Αυτή η απάντηση είναι πραγματικά ανακυκλωμένα σκουπίδια. 152 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,880 Θυμάστε ότι προσπαθήσαμε να λανσάρουμε την πρωτοβουλία πέρυσι, 153 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,900 και μας έδωσαν μία απάντηση που ήταν τόσο κακή, 154 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:14,800 που απορρίφθηκε από την Επιτροπή Πρωτοβουλιών, 155 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,460 και είπαν στην κυβέρνηση να προσπαθήσουν ξανά γιατί δεν απάντησαν στην ερώτηση. 156 00:07:18,460 --> 00:07:20,800 Αλλά μετά το κοινοβούλιο διαλύθηκε, 157 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,280 και αφ' ότου συγκλήθηκε ξανά, επαναλανσάραμε την πρωτοβουλία 158 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,800 και λάβαμε την ίδια απάντηση την οποία αντέγραψαν και επικόλλησαν στην καινούρια απάντηση, 159 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,560 αλλά με διαφορετική σύνταξη. 160 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,120 Μερικώς πιστεύω ότι όλη η δράση στο Η.Β. 161 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,720 έχει κολλήσει από έναν γραφειοκράτη στο αρμόδιο τμήμα. 162 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,240 Τώρα όμως μπορούμε να τα αγνοήσουμε όλα αυτά και να πάμε απ' ευθείας στο Κοινοβούλιο. 163 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,480 Εννοώ, δεν μπορούν να πράξουν χειρότερα από αυτό. 164 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,280 Ένα μέλος του Κοινοβουλίου θα μπορούσε να φταρνιστεί στην Πρωτοβουλία, 165 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,200 και η απάντησή του να είναι καλύτερη από τις προηγούμενες. 166 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:50,240 Και η μόνη εγγύηση από αυτή την Πρωτοβουλία είναι ότι θα λάβουμε απαντήσεις. 167 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,600 Τώρα για εκείνους από εσάς που θα θέλατε να ξεζουμίσετε τα πράγματα παραπάνω, 168 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,080 μου έχουν φέρει στην προσοχή μου ότι 169 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,960 υπάρχει μία ιστοσελίδα όπου κάποιος μπορεί να αναζητήσει τον αντιπρόσωπό του στο Κοινοβούλιο 170 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,466 και αν θέλετε να επικοινωνήσετε μαζί τους και να τους πείτε. <<Ναί, φέρτε αυτή την Πρωτοβουλία στο Κοινοβούλιο>>. 171 00:08:01,466 --> 00:08:03,920 Θα έλεγα ότι αυτό θα βοηθούσε πολύ. 172 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,960 Αλλά αυτό είναι σίγουρα πιο πολυ δουλειά απ' ότι να υπόγράψεις με το όνομά σου, 173 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,280 άρα κρατώ για αυτό μικρό καλάθι. 174 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,666 Υπάρχει ένα λίνκ στην επεξήγηση του βίντεο. 175 00:08:11,666 --> 00:08:13,100 Ωραία, αυτά είναι όλα. 176 00:08:13,100 --> 00:08:14,720 Συνεχίστε και μην σταματάτε. 177 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,120 Τώρα μπαίνουμε σε θολά νερά.
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@BTGBullseye Hey dude, it's good to see a familiar face on these forums. It's been a long time since I've posted. I think I still have you on Steam lol
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Big update on Stop Killing Games! - Italian (italiano)
danielsangeo replied to Crius's topic in Italian (italiano)
Subs and descriptions up! -
Heyo, Erasmus. Thank you so much for this. Noticed a few typos while I was going through this, which I have fixed before uploading it to the video (Subs up!, by the way): 1. @3:32, Ross says "plodding" rather than "plotting". 2. @5:06, Ross says "foment" rather than "format". 3. @6:27, I add an ellipsis before "eventually" to communicate that there was a pregnant pause there. I have attached an updated SRT. Beyond that, thanks again! Big_Update_on_Stop_Killing_Games_en.srt